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[–] 57 points 5 days ago (8 children)

This is what my job is becoming. The suits (and seemingly most of my coworkers) are excited that this is becoming the job. We don't work 12 hour days, and the use of LLMs/agentic "AI" hasn't ramped up to that level yet, but my employer is clearly gunning for that. They finalized a contract with Anslopic recently and even had one of their goons give a keynote speech at a company event with vibe-generated powerpoint slides, and they're rolling out the Clod Code licenses devs will be mandated to use.

We are so going to become a bunch of easily replaceable deskilled husks. Employers soon won't need high salaries, good benefits, and WFH to entice us. Soon, the software engineer will be making as much as the fry cook.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago

    I got let go from my software dev job a few years ago, right before all this bullshit cropped up. I ended up taking half the salary I used to make for a software support role instead. People love this slop here too and keep encouraging us to use it for our documentation and shit but so far I've never been forced to engage with it at least. My manager is subtle about it but seems to feel the same way luckily.

    If it's getting pushed on us so hard in a support role, I can't even fathom what it'd be like trying to slog through a dev role with everyone worshiping this garbage.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    It outputs compilable/runable code. And if it doesn't it can process error messages and retry until it outputs compilable/runable code.

    Sucks that this is my life for now or to have to look for something else eventually but even worse is to consider how this rollout might effect other industries where just trying shit until it sort of works is actually extremely harmful.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    it is already harmful in this industry lol

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Yeah but it has to be so much worse with anything where you don't have automated ways to verify shit. Not to say that it doesn't still make things worse.

    Something like OpenClaw connected to anything actually important is fucking terrifying and that's on an individual scale.

    Like they are already using this shit to write laws, lawyers use it at court. That's a whole nother level of everything is fucked.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago

    In my experience, for the very generic software engineering tasks I have given to LLMs, they are decent at writing code and refining it until it works. Sometimes the code is even pretty good. They have gotten much, much better as of late (last 6 months), and now even DeepSeek's cheapest model is solid for the narrow purpose of writing code.

    Now, this is not to say anything about the long term effects of this, where engineers have no idea how the codebase they are working on is structured, and all interactions with it have to go through the LLM, nor the broad negative societal consequences of using LLMs at scale, which would be far too long to enumerate in this comment.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago

    For writing the glorified CRUD app for my B2B SaaS employer, the code it generates works well enough. Keep in mind that management never really cared about software quality even before the LLMs. It's hard to keep caring about the quality of the software as a code monkey because who the hell cares about making a good business software for corpos? Even if solving problems in the abstract can be fun for awhile, eventually it gets old.

    It's the software equivalent of adulterating food with sawdust to maximize profits.

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