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[–] 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's funny they're going to get millions of dollars in funding yet contribute nothing of value back.

Nobody cared about this ceo's computerized mega yacht when it first started so he's putting a bunch of scantily clad tech companies on it to attract incels and scabs.

The multimillion dollar investment is needed because the project is so technologically bankrupt.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I expect this is just a play to get more prominent placement for Qwen tools in a very AI bro 'distro'

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago

    I'm really surprised that none of the US state department brainworms are in effect here in the blog so maybe that's a win? Still very disappointing and this might be because Chinese tech is so america-brained that a white guy like DHH can convince them that his personal dotfiles are worth millions.

    Gentoo, for example, operates in its entirety with 12 thousand dollars per year with human made contributions. So at this point I think the money is just going to go to slop tokens.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago

    What? Alibaba wasn't exactly good before, but why the fuck do they need to send 3 million to a nazi Linux distro? What do they even get from it other than looking like absolute pieces of shit?

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  • [–] 44 points 4 days ago* (18 children)

    Selfishly, I worry that the more popular Linux gets the more corporate shenanigans will sabotage it

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  • [–] 37 points 4 days ago* (14 children)

    It's strange that they're investing so much in a niche product that has always failed to gain mindshare outside of LARPers. The DIY people who make their own desktop from scratch aren't going to bite into a pre-made carnival of slop.

    They're going to gain a ton of users fast but they're all going to drop off in a year or so when people realize having a calculator app that looks like the rest of the computer is something they want and their eyes get tired of seeing the same fake neon cyberpunk aesthetic.

    I suspect that this genre of "ultra customizable unbloated leet hacker desktop" is going to die out as soon as KDE finishes their unified theming engine and you can fully larp as a windows XP user with KDE.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    Okay I have to say it: I've never understood the drive to theme your linux DE like fuckin' Windows. I know there's nostalgia for the gray 9x window decorations, but the infinite fondness for Luna or Aero baffles me. LARPing as an infinitely shittier OS...


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  • [–] 30 points 4 days ago

    Linux is already fairly corporate. It's funded by corporate funding, which is not a conspiracy, it's just because every tech company relies on Linux and therefore has a vested interest in its development and robustness. It's not some small indie kernel; it's the biggest FOSS project in the world.

    I guess if you want a non-corporate option, Plan9 and the BSDs are always there.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    We are 100% seeing this happen as time goes on. Nothing popular can be good. Not because it's popular, but because big money will come and start to monopolise and enshittify it.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago

    Under capitalism any community commons, even highly incomplete ones that still have plenty of corporate involvement, eventually become a target for enclosure and extraction or a target for destruction.

    This is one of the limitations of viewing parallel social systems as a sufficient project. Like mutual aid groups that are basically just charities or making your own "commune" (10 people living in a house). They are not actively bad. They can do very good things. But they'll never survive a round of primitive accumulation. This is why we distinguish them from socialist organizing, where the goal is the overthrow of the bourgeoisie.

    Just as a side note both mutual aid and communal living can build and be part of socialist projects and the struggle for revolution, they just have to be actually building towards that rather than reinforcing the liberal order (e.g. the tendency for a mutual aid group to become a non-profit funded by genocidaires).

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  • [–] 35 points 4 days ago

    (Cat gagging noises.)

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  • [–] 22 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    i haven't followed Omarchy for a while but last time i had heard of it, it was supposed to be a "secure" "opinionated" "AI first" preconfigured arch installation (not an actual distribution) that is neither secure, nor opinionated, and AI first meant it came pre-installed with hyperlinks to AI apps and the creator's other ventures, as well as bundled with various vibe coded atrocious bash scripts. has anything changed at all or are people just throwing money at fascists because AI?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    I genuinely actually tried to watch DHH explain "oo-mah-chi" to me because; maybe there actually is something to it if he can convince one of the biggest Chinese corporations to toss him $3mil.

    No, there really isn't. Its really is just spacemacs but for arch. The only thing unique about it is it's keyboard focused and uses a tiling window manager. That's it. Hyprland for the compositor, QuickShell for widgets. Everything else is him just vibe coding a quickshell widgets to configure the quickshell widgets. You'd get more out of EWW and River.

    I genuinely thought that DHH might've done something actually interesting when omarchy says its "AI-Native". Even if it was a bad idea, I would give him credit for trying. But no, just a keybind to open a menu to select Claude, cursor, copilot etc.

    It really is just a meth'd up billionaires dotfiles.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    qwen how could you do me like that baby

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    [–] 22 points 3 days ago

    I'm not really following this Omarchy stuff. What do these various donors expect to get out of these pretty large sums of money? In other instances with Linux or open source stuff they're usually expecting influence over the project direction or they are already using infrastructure and want to fund it as a cost center rather than maintain it themselves.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (18 children)

    shouldn't the cpc intervene here?

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  • [–] 63 points 4 days ago* (11 children)

    If they don't mind doing business with zionists or any country run by literal fascists, then they won't do anything about this either. It's the inescapable result of dropping ideological struggle in favor of unprincipled peace that Mao warned about. That's how you end up with dog shit foreign policy like actively investing in countries that seek to destroy you and oppose everything you claim to stand for.

    The entirety of Europe could resurrect i-am-adolf-hitler and go full Nazi tomorrow, and the CPC would still push for "strengthening ties" and talk about being equal partners. 🤡

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  • [–] 40 points 4 days ago*

    When Allende was coup'd by Pinnochet, most, if not all, Communist/Socialist countries broke diplomatic relations with Chile under Pinnochet's military regime, but China maintained regular diplomatic relations with Chile. So if Europe went full Hitler 2.0 , China will be ok with that if it does not interfere with its own development and maintain the One-China policy.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago

    I like China, but the whole "Yeah trading with fascist regimes is fine" thing isn't uh.... Yeah I don't like that.

    The Chinese position is essentially "If they don't want to work with us, then trying to force them too will only cause problems".

    Which that's all well and good until the US swoops in, topples governments, and severs whatever projects China and some other country were working on.

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    [–] 22 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    Can anyone explain to me what Omarchy claims to do (as in marketing only - not what it actually does) that would possibly justify all this money being flung at it? I have a hard time believing that all these companies are throwing this kind of money at something just because it's fascist (at least adjacent). Is it just a bandwagon effect at this point? Like, "oh, company X gave 3 million, so we need to give 3 million because it must be something special!" Is it claiming to do something revolutionary that is causing the stir in these companies' pants?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    It's an attempt to fashify open source by pouring money into an openly fascist project that then directs that funding towards other fash open source projects and uses the big swinging money dick to try and force compliance, silence, or exclusion on non-fash projects.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Thanks, but that sounds like what it actually does rather than whatever claims it makes that attracts all this investment. I have a hard time believing that Alibaba is patronizing an organization with millions of dollars just because it's fascist. Surely they must at least claim that they believe that Omarchy is a great project because X or Y (even as window dressing) and not "because they're fascist".

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  • [–] 16 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    I don't know exactly what Omarchy itself claims because I haven't look into it, but their claims aside, if any of these companies analyzed it for 5 minutes they would come to the same conclusion everyone else does, that it is a vibe-coded dotfiles distro, that's literally it, it doesn't do anything other than being Arch with hyprland by default and being heavily customized by AI, it makes absolute no sense for this much money to be flowing their way other than some far-right attempt of making it famous since it is run by a nazi.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I guess I'm wondering if these investments are due to malice or ignorance combined with laziness. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it were the latter, coming from business people.

    I decided to take a quick look (ewww). I bet that it's its claim to be an "agentic OS" that's getting it all this attention. "Beautiful, fun & agentic Linux" is right on the website title. In other words, it seems similar to when any random company would get a big boost in their stock a few years ago just by adding "blockchain" or "crypto" to their name.

    I also figure that another factor contributing to this attention is this DHH character's tech cred for having created Ruby on Rails and being CTO of 37signals (Basecamp). In other words, he's part of the techbro club.

    I think this all makes more sense than thinking that all these companies are donating only because it's a fascist tech project. I'm sure that's a factor too, but it's probably fascism + ignorance/laziness + techbro club membership (which I guess also boils down to fascism). Ok, I just convinced myself in the end that it's mostly the fascism. :(

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)

    Setting the obvious fascism thing aside for a moment (capitalists love fascism, news at 11), I think it might be helpful to actually look at this from the perspective of a labor struggle. The Free Software community at large has been doing a pretty lousy job of resisting LLM slop, but this is very inconsistent across the board. Some projects have rolled over and embraced the slop fully. Others have taken an infuriating "centrist" position which only demonstrates how little your average techbro knows or cares about sociology, and others still have taken a solid principled stand, that we are humans who make software for humans and the corporate practices of churning out the lowest quality product at the highest possible speed is NOT THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE of building software for the commons.

    This is inconvenient for the AI boosters. For better or worse, Silicon Valley in the 2020s is built on the back of Free Software and the (frequently) unpaid labor of volunteers. The tech stack of every major company relies on it, and they behave as if they own it. The fact that there are projects out here resisting this drive to slopify - refusing to comply because of ethical and moral principles - is unacceptable to them. They were happy when Free Software was largely a homogeneous corpus of technology they could appropriate at their own will. The fact that they now have to worry about individual projects refusing to embrace this technology has suddenly made Free Software an arena of political struggle in a way it hasn't been for a long time.

    These corporations can pay people to develop Free Software. Many do, when it serves their own interests. And when you are paying someone to do the work, you can dictate the conditions and practices of that work (e.g. If you're not using Copilot, you will be replaced by someone who will gladly shit out 100x as much code). But an innumerable amount of responsibilities in the Free Software world are not paid. And you can't force a volunteer to use LLMs if they are convinced it is a socially and ecologically poisonous technology.

    That ultimately is what this is all about. The fact that Free Software projects exist which will not accept these labor practices means that there are now some substantial pieces missing from the stack. The fact that the average software company has transformed most of their software engineers into LLM zombies means there are a lot of projects which will no longer accept their contributions. You can't simply pay them to land a patch in (many components of) GNOME anymore (for instance). Any project which digs in against LLM use needs to either be forked or substituted (or infiltrated).

    They need to recuperate the tech stack and plug these holes. That is the point of throwing millions of dollars at a vibe-coded fashslop dotfiles distro.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)

    Its big selling point is being "AI first" - they preinstall a bunch of AI apps and have some system tray integrations for them. The rest of the distro seems to be typical theming stuff that a lot of Linux users do and post about on places like r/unixporn.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago

    Thanks! I went looking and noticed that "agentic OS" was right on their website title. I imagine that that may be the primary public justification for these companies' investments, but the fascism may be the real unstated reason, or at least the icing on the cake for some of them.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 days ago

    what the fuck I literally just recommended Alibaba. Fucking hell

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  • [+] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Develop a popular web application framework and blog compulsively about exterminating the immigrants.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 days ago

    this stuff just turns my stomach

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    [–] 9 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Can we stop boosting news about this stupid distro no one uses?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago

    It's not really about the 'distro' itself, but the growing ball of fascist money around it. Their aim seems to be to capture open source funding and make other projects dependent on them I believe.

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  • All the incels telling people to kill themselves in gaming chats are the users I envision for this atrocity.

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