(Sorry this got so long, I got nerd-sniped once again, and I'm not even really disagreeing with you, I think.)

How are historically high CO2 emissions used to justify continued high emissions? I could imagine the only argument here that could be made would be by countries that have not yet emitted as much as other countries, and in some way one might even be inclined to say that they are right. Even if it's the wrong approach.

Also what you posted are yearly CO2 emissions, what @DupaCycki@lemmy.world was talking about is cumulative emissions. Granted, even there it's not nearly as clear cut as 92% for rich countries, but still considerable.

According to ourworldindata USA and EU (I think that does not include the UK any more) are still in the lead, but you are right, if the trend continues that's just a matter of time. However even then, when it comes down to population, USA + EU are way less people than China, and when summing USAs and EUs emissions , it will take way longer for china to "catch up"... I'm not even sure where I'm going with this, just trying to give some perspective.

However overall I still have to agree with you - eventually comparing CO2 emissions of countries with each other does not make too much sense. Not because those countries aren't at fault, rather because manufacturing and consumption is not tied to countries any more. Even within countries CO2 emissions vary a lot by purchase power.

Only old heads get this reference.

it has pushed low and middle income countries further into China’s sphere of influence and also into purchasing more Russian oil.

Idk about Russia, given how much of their infrastructure is being demolished.

But China has competitors in the green energy industry globally. The US just isn't one of them.

Hegemonic Shift

Christ I wish housing wasn't so fucked in the UK. The odds of my landlord replacing the ancient gas boiler with a heat pump is nil, not when we're still fitting millions of new gas boilers, even to the few new builds that make it through planning ffs. Even if I owned my house a heat pump might not be feasible for various reasons, many of them down to our housing stock just being totally naff in various ways.

Don't get me wrong the Russians love to exaggerate our problems, but the best thing we can do to fuck the Kremlin over is getting the natural gas needle out of our collective arms which we're just not that interested in doing. Sure the grid is decarbonising but the majority of heating is still natural gas, and the grid can't be upgraded to fix this due to our genuine economic self-harm of discretionary planning where bored retirees and self-interested QUANGOs can delay everything to the point of non-viability.

it's the solution for white people. china has been steaming along at a breakneck pace towards renewable energy for years now. if it wasn't for their production capacity for photovoltaic cells and batteries, there wouldn't be a solar revolution right now.

of course, they also released a ton of oil when the Iran war started picking up, so that wasn't great, but it also maybe saved our asses as well.

https://youtu.be/BkA0bkb6ZO0

China pivoting is doing the most I think

That's Market Forces for you.

Making everyone feel the pain all at once in the worst way possible

The revolution will be sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends

My area is supposed to be humid as well but it has been arid for years now but never as bad as it was this year