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[–] 258 points 4 weeks ago (22 children)

I'd laugh, but this just seems like it would actually happen.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 weeks ago

    When I accepted my current job, I did so on the conditions that I'd work 4x10 and fully from home (after training). When I started, they said there had been a misunderstanding about full WFH and that I was allowed to WFH one day a week. (That eventually changed during COVID but no one ever apologized to me for lying to me.)

    Seven years later - last year - they told me that it was "unfair" that I'm the only person who had a special schedule (apparently I was the last person to have it, but I certainly was not the only) and took that away, too.

    I live in a rural area and will not be able to find a comparable job nearby. I've been contemplating what to do.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    On my first job the boss was telling a story about one of his previous jobs, where at one point they had to redo a whole week's worth of work in one night. They tried hard and managed to do it. So I just added: "it's in those times one see how slow they usually work"

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  • [–] 215 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

    "So we went back to five days, and now productivity is down to effectively three days, what went wrong?"

    Executives, everywhere.

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  • [–] 72 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    "so I started blasting firing people"

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  • [–] 26 points 4 weeks ago

    Anyone else remember the scene in Schindler's list where the Nazis make a work camp Jew show how quickly he can make a part (a hinge I think), and then look at his completed parts bin and decide to kill him because he clearly hasn't been working that speed the entire time?

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  • [–] 134 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    The problem is the workplaces don't want that. if you're happier and have more energy, it also makes you more uppity and harder to control. You might even find options for other work!

    If it means keeping you tired and broken, that's worth the cost of a little productivity.

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  • [–] 61 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    But is that really so? i would think that a better work life balance makes the employees inclined to remain at their job instead of hopping elsewhere. Probably even at the expense of a higher salary at another place that would instead demand the grind again.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 weeks ago

    You're not accounting for the emotional needs of management. Many of them are cruel. They put value in making their workers squirm.

    We should have worker owned things instead of the petty tyranny of capitalism, but here we are.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Take a look at our little friend remote work. Almost all employees love it. Retention is thru the roof at places that offer it. More than half of workers say they'd even take a pay cut to keep it. Productivity isn't affected in most cases (ymmv obviously). Buuuuut guess who absolutely can't stand it? Management. They'll go to the ends of the earth to make sure you don't get it. Ask yourself why.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago

    People, generally speaking, have an absolutely infuriating tendency to adapt to good things. They eventually look for more. The best way to prevent this, from an employer's perspective, is to break their spirit. Learned helplessness is one of the only ways to permanently keep a free person in a bad situation.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 weeks ago

    You might even find options for other work!

    Not many other places offer a 4-day week for same salary.
    This to give up would be a major strong point..

    And to be honest...I'd actually work an hour more a day (36h week) to have a monday - thursday week just for the same or higher wage.

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  • [–] 58 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    while we know this post is fake, this is the logic capitalists use. it is the logic they hide, the lede they bury, when they report on how efficient ai will make us.

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    [–] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is genuinely how MBAs think

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    MBAs have systematically been drilled to view the world as numbers, rather than social or psychological dynamics. Empathy is an obstacle when your focus is on generating higher numbers.

    If you estimate a project in hours of work, a shorter work-week looks like projects will take longer. Imagine you've planned 60h and are billing for 60h, but instead of devoting 20h per week and delivering in three weeks, your developer now only spends 16h and you'll be delivering in four weeks instead! That's wasting a week they could've spent on other projects, slow down turnaround times and essentially cut your revenue per week by 33%.

    Worse, you're also supposed to pay them 20% more per hour, so you have less revenue for more pay. You can see how that'll cut into profits.

    Never mind that the increased productivity messes with your estimate, so the same work might now get done in, say, 48h instead, keeping the same turnaround time, at the same price you were paying before. Even if you consider that, you'd also have to charge the customer more per hour of work, which seems like a tougher sell than just keeping things as they were, which everyone is already used to.

    It's an idiotic and soulless way to think about labour instead of people, and it's neither sustainable nor really reasonable, but if the only tool you have is a calculator, everything becomes numbers.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I used to work at a university whose education department sank hundreds of thousands of dollars into a study to find ideal lecture length to maximize retention.

    Memory's a little fuzzy... it was short. Like a half hour?

    Anyway the punchline I definitely do remember is that they got the results of the study then changed absolutely nothing

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    [–] 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Lol yeah it's the exact same [facetious] logic as expecting increasing the working day from 10 ~> 20 hours to lead to increased productivity.

    It's almost like ample and adequate rest need to be baked into scheduling?

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  • [–] 31 points 4 weeks ago* (10 children)

    It's also that so much work is pointless and doesn't serve a proper purpose for humanity. Things like ads, a lot of office jobs where people sit in endless meetings, and so on.

    I think humanity has realized it's wasting our lives but we can't think of another system that will work.

    Maybe universal income but the downside of that is that it comes with AI and transhumanism, which will remove what is human about humans.

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    [–] 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Capitalism in a nutshell. Treat your employees like expendable assets and squeeze every last drop out of them

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    [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is why cruelty is the point, because they prioritize it even above profit.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    It's Taco Bell logic. You love our chicken nuggets and caramel empanadas? We sold out in 3 days? Well they're discontinued so fuck you. Ok guys, sales are down and we can't figure out why, we need ideas.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    I guess at this point, with the million plus recently laid off, humanity is just lucky we ate able to leave freely and not progressed into biofuel to fun data centers slop factories.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I have worked in the mining industry for over 20 years. Before Covid happened my monthly schedule was set up so that we were given seven days off every month. At the end of 2021 management decided to change it so that we worked 5 days and 4 off with them saying that this was a “safer”and more beneficial to employees, since the schedule change there have been more people quitting and more people getting hurt on the job I myself along with others have voiced our opinion to go back to the original schedule and management looks down upon us as if we said a dirty word.

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    [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Productivity isn't a straight line, which is where most businesses fail in their thinking. Yeah I can do five days of work in four days, with the right incentives. I can also do it in five with no incentives.

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