in portuguese, fruit (botanical) and fruit (culinary) are 2 distinct words, respectively are, "fruto" and "fruta"

Interesting little fact: a factoid is not a little fact, it's something that appears like a fact but is in fact false. Think like how an android is a fake human, a factoid is a fake fact.

Here's the thing. You said a "fruits are vegetables."

Are they edible parts of plants? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies food, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls fruits vegetables. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "fruits" you're referring to the botanical grouping of fructus, which includes things from nuts to tomatoes to pumpkins.

So your reasoning for calling fruits a vegetable is because random people "call the edible parts vegetables?" Let's get roots and leaves in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A vegetable is a vegetable and a member of the frouit grouping. But that's not what you said. You said a fruits are vegetables, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all edible plant parts vegetables, which means you'd call seeds, bark, and parts vegetables, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

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it's kinda like how people insist that paradoxes are some wild freaky thing, when in reality it's just "we don't know what would happen because it's not real and doesn't make sense in reality as we know it".
Or like "did you know there's no such thing as a fish?" when in reality obviously fish are real, it's just that fish describes the shape of a creature.

people just love fixating on and exaggerating stuff like this, presumably because it starts arguments online

Charisma is being able to sell a tomato-based fruit salad.

Salsa is fruit salad.

Wisdom is knowing that tomatoes don’t belong in a fruit salad

but have you actually ever tried it even once?

Mine has them in the "condiments" section, next to pickles

It also has a section labeled "beans", but that's only dry beans. The canned ones are in "canned vegetables"

Relevant Smartypants episode: https://watch.dropout.tv/videos/birthdays-the-cookout-vegetables (dropout subscription required) 22m20s onwards for the relevant segment but that whole episode's a banger

Sounds insufferable!

i always assumed that "verdure" comes from "verde" (green), i.e. "the green stuff"

Fun fact - there are also non-edible fruits (such as horsenettle “wild tomato”, which is poisonous), so it’s more a Venn diagram thing!