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[–] 15 points 7 hours ago

It’s very telling that liberals are so keen on rehabilitating the bush administration and the hawkish foreign policy that they aren’t willing to make it a party line that yes the 2000 election was credibly stolen via the Supreme Court and subsequent Gore capitulating.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 hours ago*

    The only time in my lifetime a third party candidate has had any actual effect on the election was Ross Perot, and he took votes away from the GOP candidate HW Bush.

    The DNC love to pretend that third parties hamstring them and cause them to lose material votes, but it has literally never happened.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago

    Nader votes werent enough to swing it

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  • [–] 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    Let us not blame the Democrats from running scandal ridden and deeply unpopular billdawg's VP Gore who had Clinton's baggage to carry. Let us not blame the Supreme Court who appointed Bush. Let us look past the fact Bush's father was CIA or how the CIA installed him as Governor of Texas along with his brother jeb as Governor of Florida where the hanging chad controversy was.

    Let us not blame Gore for running a shit campaign or the Democrats for tossing the left under the bus during Clinton's administration. Or the Clinton administration for their war on labor unions and the rise of Walmart killing home town stores. People did not forget the 1999 Battle for Seattle was fresh in people's minds.

    Let us not forgot how Gore just folded and did not fight the Supreme Court despite winning the popular vote in Florida.

    The entitled little shits at the DNC just deflect and forget. Think they are owed and failed rather than own up to their own failures.

    People who voted Green probably wasn't going to vote for the Dems anyways, especially in deep red Florida. But the guy who helped save thousands by getting seatbelts in cars gets the blame. It is never the dems fault ever. It is never the system's fault ever.

    Ask a liberal - given what we seen from Obama bailing out the banks on 2008, freezing minimum wage at $7.25/hr, throwing away universal healthcare for Romney care insurance racket, having his entire cabinet dictated by Citigroup, Obama and Biden being warhawks, not closing Gitmo, and expanding on the PATRIOT ACT bullshit GW Bush did, if Gore was president on 9/11 what would have been different?

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  • [–] 42 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

    I was living in the US then and old enough to vote for that election. Another missing piece here is that Al Gore had the closest thing to a sure shot election and ran the worst campaign known to man. He even lost his own state.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Al Gore had the closest thing to a sure shot election and ran the worst campaign known to man

    Worse than 2016?

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  • [–] 1 point 41 minutes ago*

    Yeah, way more likely to win by the numbers and ran a worse campaign, Hilary at least has a personality, Al Gore sucked personality out of a room in appearances and debates. He appointed the most conservative VP Joe Lieberman. Also people thought George W Bush a stupid nepo-baby at the time and was very unpopular unlike Trump who as a became wildly popular and crushed the republican debates as a comedian.

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  • [–] 20 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    I'm not old enough to have been aware of much of Gore's campaign. What did he do?

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  • [–] 58 points 14 hours ago* (14 children)

    Imagine blaming Nader for the Supreme Court stealing the election.

    I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals.

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Nader didn't even get any electoral college votes - did he? In any case - here we are 26 years later an the dems still haven't done a single tiny iota of a thing to get rid of the electoral college and fix the court. Although being that we have an out-of-control reactionary GOP court the dems are meekly discussing possible court reform.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 hours ago

    He did not, and it wasn’t even close. The state he got the highest in was Alaska, at a little over 10%. In nearly every state only the candidate who gets the plurality of the popular vote gets any electoral votes.

    He did not affect the outcome of the election, the only thing that changed it was the Supreme Court illegally stealing it for Bush.

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  • [–] 24 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

    I still remember the Harvey Birdman comeback special making a sharp jab at Nader in the year 2018

    They say Dwarves can hold a grudge, but Libs have them beat i think

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  • [–] 23 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    They’re not even holding a grudge against the right people though!

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  • [–] 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    That wasn't just a callback to Reducto in the Blackwatch Plaid episode? After a stream of illegal-to-say phrases, he blurts out, "vote for Ralph Nader" into a cell phone to demonstrate that they're being wiretapped.

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  • [–] 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    Was Harvey Birdman serious, or was it some meta joke about how ridiculous it is to still be seething about Nader in 2018?

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  • [–] 28 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    Iirc in Florida in 2000 more registered democrats voted for Bush than for Nader. They just ran a shit campaign, straight up. Nader had nothing to do with it

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  • [–] 10 points 8 hours ago

    And even despite their shit campaign they did win but decided to just give up in the face of the blatantly illegal theft by the Supreme Court and the Florida state government (Run by GWB’s brother)

    The Democratic Party loves republicans winning and has for at least 3 decades.

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  • [–] 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    ooof lmao. I was not old enough to vote yet (barely) so I did not really pay much attention to electoral politics, which is funny because now I know so much about the fucked US electoral system that I'm back to thinking teenage me was right about a lot of things lol.

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