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[–] 92 points 6 days ago (6 children)

For completeness, there should probably be an "I know a guy" in the A tier, though admittedly that isn't really available until you've been working for at least a few years.

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  • [–] 62 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Where's walking into the store, demanding to speak to the owner, looking him straight in the eye and giving him a firm handshake while insisting you'll be the best employee he's ever hired?

    Just kidding, they'll just look at you weird and tell you to check the F tier platforms.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 days ago

    I would love to see one of those sankey diagrams about job applications except it’s some dude walking into local businesses everyday to do the firm handshake and insist that he would be the greatest employee they will ever have.

    And then, because I am a scientist, repeat the experiment with the same dude but dressed like a slob, with a woman, same lady except dressed like a slob, etc

    And then do a small paper on the sociology of the interactions and how hiring managers innate biases might impact getting hired.

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  • [–] 53 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    My old professor called and asked me if I was looking for a job because one of the company he was freelancing for wanted him to come over full time. He told me to apply and he'd vouch for me. I got the job.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    I've known a few coworkers throughout the years who have reached out after they left where we worked "hey man it's better over here." put in a good word for me and boom.

    not sure if that is A or B though. all corporate jobs.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 days ago

    My first job was "my dad knows a guy" (that guy really fought for me at that company and that turned out great for everyone) and from then on almost every job was through a former coworker. Have returned the favour a few times.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I don't consider myself a good networker by any means. But that's literally how I've gotten everyone of my jobs during my professional career.

    Went to a job fair senior year of college, saw an old classmate, struck up a conversation and that lead to my first job.

    Then from there on out, exactly what you described. Just old coworkers recommending better places.

    Honestly, the idea of applying for a job going in cold over the Internet sounds like a horrible experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago*

    It's not too bad when you've got a license that's in demand but without a license # to put in the box on the app it's pretty rough. Was pretty rough for the unlicensed roles in my field but is decently easy with. This is reminding me to call back that recruiter in the morning that hubs convinced me to stay in-state because they gave me a follow-up call like a month later to ask if I'm still considering them and idw be too rude in case I do decide to move the year after next.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago

    Honestly, the idea of applying for a job going in cold over the Internet sounds like a horrible experience.

    It does sound that way, but in my very limited experience it worked out rather well.

    Current gig is the only one in my professional career where I didn't get a foot in the door by word of mouth, and aside from it being scary, it wasn't really that different. Got me a low 6 figure 100% remote work gig a few years back and I love it. But again, this is a sample size of 1.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 days ago* (5 children)

    Good to know you're actively screwed if your parents disowned you.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 days ago

    A is “I’m good friends with the guy” B is “My good friend knows a guy”

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  • [–] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

    its nepotism and croniyism, if you had the chance of visiting the indeed forums before it was shutdown. monsters and ziprecruiter is probably the worst ones to use, compared to indeed and glassdoor, because thier listings tends to cater to people who had significant experience from the get-go.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (2 children)

    Or, you know, good old fashioned networking. Unless that’s what you mean by cronyism.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child)

    cronyism, if you get a job without going through interview process.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    Ok yeah that is cronyism.

    But every single job I have ever had in my career has been through reference from someone I had worked with or for before. Someone I worked with moved on somewhere else and when there was an opening there, they threw my name in.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 days ago

    As someone that's rode on nepotism jobs my entire adult life, I agree lol. It sure does make the interviewing process easier.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 days ago

    ye its called nepotism

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  • [–] 11 points 6 days ago

    Or being SSS and becoming self employed.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago

    G- Guys can I just get the job. This is dumb.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago

    A tier may have to be “I used to work with the guy”

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago*

    "The guy is scared of my dad"

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    Does an uncle count as dad knows a guy?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    I think LinkedIn should go to Z---.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    Yall have dads?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    Does anyone's dad know of anyone hiring

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    what about #getfedihired?

    also moms can also know guys!

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    get fedi hired

    a hashtag on the non threadyverse fedi for job ads or non-ad posts about free positions (e.g. in the company the poster working for)

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    I actually got what I would consider A tier for my first job. I walked into the local pizzeria, they handed me a job form, I completed it and gave it back, then the owner of the pizzeria did my interview right then and there, and I started working the next day.

    That guy gave me a glimpse of what the "good ole days" must've felt like.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    You can take out Glassdoor and SimplyHired because they're both owned by Indeed.

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