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[–] 17 points 3 days ago*

Why does this title make it sound like they are upset?

This sounds better to me: EV batteries are lasting longer than many drivers expected.

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  • [–] 80 points 4 days ago (16 children)

    I’m not afraid of the batteries. My parents’ original Prius made it to 150,000 miles on the original pack before it was totaled in an accident.

    I’m worried about all the electric gimmicks in the cabin breaking, and the cameras recording me and everyone else and selling the data, and getting into an accident because I had to swipe through five screens to adjust the temperature.

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  • [–] 50 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    That's not just electric cars, thats just included as fascism grows.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Right! I'd go for an electric with none of those gimmicks (and non of all those mainenance-heavy ICE attachments) ... just an 80s-style cushy car with battery, radio & music player ... in a minute.

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    yeah looking forward to the slate and the telo (it's so freakin cute!)

    but prob will end up with the slate. now I have to find a 3d printer big enough to make body panels lol

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  • The Telo ain't gonna happen. My understanding is they have no plan for manufacturing.

    Slate is going to deliver at least a few thousand units. They're going to be behind schedule. It's September, they're talking about Q4 2026 deliveries, and not a single truck has rolled off the line. They're touring the country doing press events and demo rides in engineering validation trucks. They'll make it half or maybe a whole model year before folding.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    I mostly agree but there are two things I really want a car to have: adaptive cruise control and air conditioning pumped through the seats. And the thing is that everyone probably has two tech things they can’t live without, and everyone’s two things are different.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago* (9 children)

    This is why i only buy used old cars. Until we have cars without spyware I'll never go electric.

    Laws required:

    • zero cameras on or in cars.
    • Everything required to be user repairable (within reason. Obviously a battery pack may not be fixable)
    • headlights shall be below xxx lumens on bright, and or have a 3 position switch to change them from "blind everyone" to "pretty bright" to "low beam to not blind every person oncoming"

    Why can't we have nice things? (Billionaires is why). Imagine how much our lives would improve from these laws.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    zero cameras on or in cars

    Backup cameras are really nice actually, especially if they have that little grid showing you where the car is going to turn into.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I was like you a few months ago, and then I started digging. This is an excellent time to get your hands on really good value 2nd hand EVs.

    Some of the early Tesla competitors came out with EVs that were essentially ICE platforms with physical buttons and no spyware and way better build quality and without the FSD AI garbage that caused more accidents than if humans had been driving.

    And there are new brands that are hearing the anti-screen sentiment and bringing out new models with physical buttons too. Now that solar is plateauing, EVs will become ubiquitous and charging networks are the next rapid expansion of the electrify everything.

    Re your laws: I believe the EU just passed a law that all new cars now need to have cameras for driver attention monitoring. I think this comes from the insurance lobby.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    My leaf just has buttons for all the things that normally have buttons. There is a touchscreen, but you can use buttons to control it.

    Its possible but I think its cheaper to just use a screen, and we all know that nothing is more important than Line Go Up.

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    [–] 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Why does the car media ignore the known issues of control module and motor failures?

    A Tesla battery might last 200K, the rest of the car is shit.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago*

    The article focused on the batteries of multiple EV manufacturers? Also the Tesla battery is still useful without the crappy car container. Just pull it out when the control module and motors fail, and use it as a battery backup. Sell the car for scrap, if they'll even pay for it.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 days ago* (4 children)

    Feared? This is good news wTF is with the "feared"?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    Phrasing sucks. I think it means "consumers refuse to buy second-hand EVs because they fear that batteries would lose a shitton of capacity. Turns out, they're fine. The batteries, we mean."

    Which is both good news (yay for good capacity on second-hand cars) and bad news (because EVs depreciate super fast and I'm counting on it to afford one, and may not depreciate as much anymore).

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    The bigger killer of lithium EV batteries is age. Not miles they've gone. LifePO4 last longest aft what's commonly available, but the EV cells will go bad after 12 to 20 years no matter if the cars gone 10,000 miles or 300,000 miles. The batteries chemistry simply isn't stable for long term beyond that.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    yeah there's never anything good enough to replace good ol fossil fuels huh?

    this guy is a shill for exxon. every argument is bad faith, poorly reasoned or outright lies.

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    [–] 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Why is distance travelled being used as a metric for batteries? Shouldn't it be charge cycles like phones have been using forever?

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