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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Also known as slaves, since they are not paid, not allowed to go to school or leave, and beaten and cut as punishment.

Stop eating slave chocolate, folks.

There is ethical chocolate available.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Where is that mythical ethical chocolate?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tony's is one of the bigger brands. Even they will admit their efforts aren't always perfect but it's about constant audits to keep the supply line safe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I know about Tonys's. Do you know where I could find the findings of those audits?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

But that isn't an audit report, is it? Just pr material that they themselves produced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It used to come in an annual report but I couldn't find the last few years

https://tonyschocolonely.com/uk/en/annual-fair-reports/annual-fair-report-2019-2020

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look for fair trade. (Endandgered species chocalate is pretty good) they all still have shady practices ofc but you will get better chocalate!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I eat chocolonely, it's in supermarkets near me.

Here's a list of ethical chocolate companies:

https://www.slavefreechocolate.org/ethical-chocolate-companies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Mythical? It's at Aldi!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, where?? So I was already avoiding Nestle, now I find out Mars is in on this shit too. Is there any chocolate I can eat that isn't born from child slave labor? Are Reese's ok? I just want chocolate without supporting literal slavery.

Edit: just saw your other comment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most supermarkets these days have ethical chocolate alternatives. Their brands aren't as well-known so you might not notice them unless you're looking for them, that was my case.

Then the first time I looked for ethical chocolate, chocolonely was right there on display in the first Safeway I walked into.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if we keep eating slave chocolate, but we make the slave owners buy "freedom cocoa" credits from places where cocoa is being farmed ethically already?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then we'll be prolonging unnecessary child slavery and abuse.

They're slave owners, their profit margin is pretty wide and their industry standards are not very strict, as you might imagine.

The most effective way to end trafficking/slavery linked to chocolate is to stop buying slave chocolate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's mocking carbon credits.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Most of the farmers producing the cocoa in your chocolate have themselves never tasted chocolate before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's fine because the slaves are in the other country and we get to call ourselves pioneer of human rights and green power to live guilt free. It's totally not by design, no sir.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Idk what you mean by "other country."

Are those like big, not-here states?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When it comes to chocolate it seems the only ethical option is not to consume it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Here is a company that is trying to do the right thing: Tony’s Chocolonely

Note: I am not affiliated in any way, but simply heard about them via another story.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Pbs newshour and John Oliver have done stories on them in the past few yes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

They are paying more money per tonne of cocoa to the slave owners... I don't see any indication that this "living wage" actually goes to the slaves themselves tho.

https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en/our-story/news/why-we-wont-stop-paying-a-higher-price-for-cocoa

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ethical option would be for them to pay adults properly so the children dont need to work

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

The producers have been saying that is going to happen for decades and it has not.

That is why I say there is not guarantee that any chocolate is produced ethically.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sugar and coffee are also like this. Abolish capitalism faster, pls!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They are still working with Russia as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Literally every major food company does stuff like this. It's one of the countless problems with unchecked capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whether you intend to or not, you're suggesting everyone should blow this off and ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

No, I'm suggesting seizing the means of production.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago