Yes, but have you considered that using renewables means you're gay? Checkmate liberals.
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Probably true in every market that is not the US, with extreme tariffs and EOs banning solar technology.
This is true when comparing to peaker gas/coal plants which are less efficient than more expensive Combine Cycle plants, though both can still run 24/7. The myth of baseload as a requirement ignores that "outside of heating or extreme summer night heat" night demand is half of day/evening demand.
Batteries are now extremely cheap as well, and certainly the combo compared to Combined Cycle is cheaper for better baseload coverage because combined cycle/baseload must overprovide daily needs by meeting peak demand, while solar+batteries can better cover full day needs.
The absolute clincher though is price certainty for 30 years. Free from extortion or geopolitical oppression/chaos of fuel supply chains. Global warming has direct costs to property values, insurance costs, and food scarcity. US policy has moved to create global fuel scarcity for increased dependence on US, as well.
We could use the excess power to bank carbon, then if we need more power we can burn that same carbon.
BuT wHaTaBoUt WhEn ItS cLoUdY!!
Yeah but you have to pay for the sunshine every year that you use to power the panels. And you have to build pipelines to transport that sunshine from the faraway places where it's developed, and sometimes you have to liquefy it a load it onto gigantic tanker ships and carry it overseas, and there's always a risk of it exploding and...oh, wait. I'm thinking of the gas. Never mind.
But what happens after that up front cost?? With the current price of a barrel of sun, can we really afford to limit fossil fuels?
I bought a 1 kg rest mass barrel of sunshine, and... boy howdy, for the price I might as well have purchased 1.8 times 10^15 joules from the energy grid.
1kg rest mass of sunlight in a barrel is objectively horrifying lol. Napkin math says thats ~9e19J. For reference, Tsar Bomba, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated on earth, produced ~2.1e17J. You've got a barrel containing ~440 Tsar bomba detonations
I'm glad it doesn't exist. That committee trying to design warning signs for permanent nuclear waste storage would have a field day. "The inner lining is only 99.99999999999999999999999999% reflective while it's in this certain temperature range. Do not inhale or exhale forcefully in the vicinity." is a non-starter.
You don't measure sun in barrels. It comes in bars.
The propagandized will continue parroting their fossil fuel talking points and will continue to vote for the politicians that collect fossil fuel money.
They already moved on to different tactics like restricting the ability to connect solar to the grid or simply burying all applications in red tape for years.
Idk, it's working pretty great for me.
My experience: https://lemmy.world/post/32326227
But you are not scalable.
The companies that in my country have already applied for grid connections of more solar and battery capacity than would be needed in the next few years yet waiting and waiting and at some point just giving up would be.
Oh, and now law changes will also kill all future plans as no one will build any more solar with their own money (or get loans from banks) after the decision if they can actually feed in their produced electricity is shifted to the control of grid providers all-well connected or subsidiaries with fossil-fuel focused energy companies.
Economic viability means shit if it gets fought actively on the government level.
Why do you say it like it's an eternal inevitability? Propagandists spend so much time and money on propaganda because it has to be maintained at a certain pressure to effectively change someone's behavior. The solution to the propaganda problem, then, is to combat propaganda, not wring our hands in despair. We've been busting up propaganda rings since the dawn of the written word, it can be done. Just needs people to do it.
What about the absurd amount of land it takes?
How much energy can be produced on global land used for liquid biofuels: 32000 TWh for PV vs 1400 TWh biofuels for transport:
Remember that you can still use the land for a more useful agricultural crop with higher¹ or similar² yield³ with agrivoltaics
You can also put panels over parking lots. USA alone has more parking lot land area than some countries:

Biofuels: the least efficient form of solar power one could possibly invent.
It's fine if you have ample fields and a low population with an excess of food.
It's mainly there as a form of farm subsidy that bypasses restrictions thrown up by long-existing trade agreements. Canada provides no farm subsidies besides underwriting crop and moisture insurance premiums to an extent, but the US has a long history of flouting these restrictions.
As usual. Coincidentally it provides money for equipment manufacturers and inputs providers like Deere and Cargill. But I'm sure that's just a happy coincidence of providing "food security".
can be leased, and at end of lease, land is free for any use. ie. it is not polluted. Fossil plants need exclusion zones for air pollution and noise, and still depress neighbour property values.
If you have the space. Solar needs a lot more space for the same power output.
Sticking coal power generation on your roof, are ye?
From a power-generated-per-area perspective, PV is about 500x less dense than a modern gas-fired combined cycle.
Are you counting the space taken up by the gas wells, transportation infrastructure, and storage facilities?
Why does that matter? Solar can go where coal can't.
Put PV above a parking lot, you're not using that land for anything else useful anyway.
Lotta places it can go. Doesn't matter if it takes up more space.
Coal and gas plants can only go in specific spots. Need a water supply, needs logistics, needs a clear zone to vent. So it needs more space than a trivial accounting would indicate.
Solar can go in more diverse locations, absolutely. Especially advantageous because solar can be installed right on top of the buildings that need electricity. Lowers dependence on already-overloaded transmission lines.
Just from a utility perspective, it’s a lot simpler, easier to buy a plot of industrial zoned land, and stick a combined cycle on it. This is enough to power an entire medium city, 24/7.
Compared to logistically working with a massive number of private property owners to install solar on their property. And the result of all that work is enough to power the same city from 7 in the morning to 7 at night.
From a utility perspective, you may be right. Given the existence of an already-extant fossil fuel distribution infrastructure, I could see it being simpler.
But that said, the "amount of space used" isn't a great metric to compare the two, since the space used by solar is very different and can overlap with space used for other things.
Getting away from utilities, solar is something that individual people can install on their properties to electrify their own little baby power grid, feeding back to the wider grid or not. This will effect the demand curve in the aggregate, leaving utilities to cover the difference somehow. With load dropping to zero or near-zero during sunlight hours, and increasing in the off-peak and winter hours, they have to consider options to balance the grid that aren't appropriate for fossil fuel plants.
The niche that gas peaker plants fill is rapidly going away as battery technology improves. I think the calculus, in ten or so years, is going to be that it'll be "a lot simpler, easier to buy a plot of industrial zoned land, and stick a" battery farm on it to harvest surplus power during the daylight/windy hours and discharge it at other times.
I expect that demand for gas is going to drop precipitously in that situation, meaning that the whole fossil fuel distribution network may struggle, and prices will go up, further motivating distributed generation. And utilities are going to want to prepare for that earlier rather than later.
We have space on our houses, to protect us from rain and sun.
Btw, why are never company buildings solar required? They have vastly more space.

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