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[–] 94 points 3 days ago (1 child)

Let’s play the oligarch monopoly illegal antitrust violating merger game… CBS and Paramount is skydance which wants to merge Warner, all run by David Ellison, son of Larry Ellison, which is Oracle, which works with OpenAI, so it totally tracks they would want to sue Anthropic.

This strategy is super familiar. This is almost like how Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems, to obtain Java to sue Google over Android… Hmmmmmm

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  • [–] -4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    This might be the first time I'm actually rooting for Anthropic. I mean I do use Claude mostly because it's cheap as hell on a subscription and Kimi has pretty nasty terms of use... But I don't LIKE the company. But if it's them vs the Zionellison family, they better win.

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  • [–] 120 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Fucking finally! Now let them fight.

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  • [–] 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I refuse to hope for a world where copyright and AI are both destroyed in one lawsuit because it’s too beautiful to ever be real.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I'm concerned how AI often leads to people to defend copyright. I fear it will come out of the fight stronger than ever, while not slowing AI in any meaningful way.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago*

    The result is going to be some kind of deal where AI use requires to pay a certain percentage or something like $0.01 per token in copyright fees. This will be the end of open weight models you're allowed to run locally on your PC. It'll be "piracy".

    It will strengthen the AI corporations by allowing complete monopolization of AI.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago*

    Just latching ointo the top comment: this page compares AI-generated music with the originals it blatantly stole from. It's against Suno, not Anthropic, but it illustrates the overall issue pretty well.

    Obligatory (for Germans): GEMA is not necessarily the good guy here. Neither are Sony and Warner.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Uh AI steals everyone's work. How it's legal I'll never know.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    because it was ruled to be a transformative work, like how someone making a video essay on a book/game/movie is (sometimes) not violating copyright.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    If AI continues to be treated as transformative work, there should also be a valid case to kill licensing requirements for sampling music. After all, there you're literally using small clips of someone's music or similar to make undeniably new art.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    So if I modify someone else's art and call it my own, the courts will respect this precedent and let me go?

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  • [–] 31 points 3 days ago
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    Bite each other's dicks off

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  • [–] 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    And now watch everyone cheer for Sony and Warner to succeed in their lawsuits to extend the grip of copyright. What a timeline.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Nah, people are not THAT stupid.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    A while back I saw a thread in a piracy community that was cheering some other lawsuit against an AI company for similar reasons, so I wouldn't bet. The anti-AI sentiment is quite strong in these parts.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    They’re not going to walk back copyright law so I’ll take these rapacious AI companies being held a little closer to the same standard that we are.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    They’re not going to walk back copyright law

    Why not? These laws exist the make the rich more money; if the interests of the rich people trying to make money change it's very possible for the law to change to match that.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago

    Because there’s more money to be made in keeping it than walking it back. I could see them making some kind of shitty carve out for the AI companies that they have to pay into I guess but nothing that would benefit the average person.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    We are talking about "Property" - the core foundation of Capitalism. The holy grail of exploitation. Everything in this manufactured belief-system must have an owner and a price, and that price can only be forced upon others with 'property-rights' + top-down force (acab's).

    So, just about everything in our sick western fascist/oligarch societies is centered around 'Property' and the ideological right and moral duty to maximise profits from that property -> extortion.

    The balance might shift slightly/temporarily if a huge cnt are fighting other huge cnt's, but will NOT go away as long as Capitalism is the sole driver of western societies. Maximum property-rights are the steaming turd every Capitalist cnt are eating/craving.

    More infighting is imho better as it slows down this pscho ideology..

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  • [–] -4 points 3 days ago

    You lost all reasonable people at "acab's". No one will ever meaningfully rally behind your movement as long as you spread braindead takes like these. It's poisonous for the left to be affiliated with you.

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    Poor baby Sony can't defend itself

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  • [–] 16 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I love intellectual property theft.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Mind to explain why? Are you implying everything should be CC0? Are you saying what AI companies are doing is good? Should one license their software as CC0 instead of GPL? (sry, I’m not fully versed in the IP apparatus, so pls ignore my comment if I sound dumb. I will do some more research on it anyway at some point)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I think IP law shouldn't exist, because it assumes that ideas can be owned and leads to predictably absurd results.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    can they though? Isn’t the purpose of copyright mainly to manage industries e.g. avoid that one actor passes off their work as someone else’s? And they need to have a expiration date. That’s how I understood it. I can see how it can turn in to a cluster fire easy though, you’re right

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    What about Suno and maybe others?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    Dunno, it has been fair use all along, why all of a sudden? (sarcasm)

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    I miss groklaw. We'd all be feasting right about now.

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