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[–] 18 points 2 hours ago

That also gives you several other informations:

  • If Discord can read the device ID, every other website or program can?
  • If Discord can't and courts are forcing Microsoft to give out that data for Take2 to correlate IP adresses or other data, that is also really bad

So the only solution is to get the fuck away from everything Microsoft.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Daily reminder that buying GTA 6, or any other Rockstar game for that matter, directly supports some of the worst oligarchy and authoritarianism present in the west.

    Instead of buying any of their worthless slop - pirate, seed, don't even play it, share any and all leaks. Do your part to hurt their bottom line, and let us hope another Luigi takes up the case. Or ten.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Did they check the marketing department?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 hours ago*

    Big for Matrix and XMPP and maybe Delta, sure why not.

    j/k, they'll never leave discord

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  • [–] 226 points 9 hours ago* (2 children)

    It's my understanding that this essentially amounts to the legal and collateral doxing of hundreds of thousands of people, if it spans all members of these servers.

    Stop using Windows. Stop using Discord.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    Where will i post the classified documents if not discord?

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  • [–] 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Stop using Windows. Stop using Discord.

    Yep. On it almost a year now, ever since 10 was EOL'd and I learned Discord was building a profile on every user based on usage.

    Linux has been awesome and Discord mostly sucked anyway.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    I dumped Discord when I heard they were trying to do an IPO, as soon as that happens a company is without fail going to screw all of their customers because if there are shareholders the customer becomes the product.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago* (1 child)

    This is going to happen with every large centralized service, especially if they let you use it for free. These services end up being expensive to run.

    The only real solution is to use something decentralized. You're already on Lemmy so I assume you already know this. Matrix is decent (not perfect, but it's pretty good) and it's easily self-hostable using Tuwunel.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Alreeady on Matrix, too, of course. And my main social is Mastodon.

    I've purged Meta, Microsoft, Google, Sony, all of them. Heck, I'll even be lookin in to alternative GPUs for the next build, and how well I can run things on RISC-V rather than x64 or ARM.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    What solution did you end up on post Discord? If you had a group of people you communicated on Discord with, did you have luck migrating them out? I'd like to move, but my use is already really minimal and I feel like getting my friend group out is going to be difficult to non-existent in some cases.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    Matrix is what I moved to. To make transition easier for my core friends I wrote a guide with step by step instructions and pre-made a replica of our discord server. I got probably 70% of them to come over.

    The real hit was large communities. For roughly a month I came in daily letting my communities know about what was happening and that I was gonna switch so if people wanted to find me here is where they could find me. I got 3 kinds of replies:

    1. The nihilistic "I'll never escape it, everyone already has my information, why fight it"
    2. (In reference to the ID verification) "I'm not American so I don't care if people have my ID because my country doesn't have the problems America has"
    3. "Moving is too hard and I use one specific feature the other apps don't have and my friends are here so I'll move when they move"

    Moving to the new platform, giving a grace period to friends, and then moving and cutting contact with the platform had the highest success rate. People that want to talk with you will move, even if it's just to only talk with you. But the hardest thing is accepting that some people just don't care about their privacy and want the easy to use features enough that they are willing to lose contact with you.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    None. I was never invested in it very heavily. I had one channel that I was a pretty involved member on but the whole "you don't have to tell them how old you are, they're going to use an algorithm and your usage patterns to deduce it," I was just haha no, fuck that, and I quit.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    Fair enough. I strictly use it for comms in games I play with friends. I'm not active in any other communities and I'm certainly not paying for nitro. I'd like to migrate but getting everyone to do so probably won't happen. I could maybe convince my closest game friends, but I have a clan in a game with people I don't know that we use discord to chat. Definitely not getting all 40+ to move.

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  • [–] 71 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

    Take-Two wants more than just names and is asking for MachineGuid and MSA device identifiers, registration and last-login IP addresses, phone numbers, linked Google and Xbox connections, and OneDrive contents for every account that communicated in three named Discord servers since June 1.

    No government is requesting this and nothing can stop this massive transfer of personal information. This is a company mad at facing contempt for their anti-consumer practices and exercising extra-legal methods to find the justice they will buy against the people they deem responsible.

    Take-Two is not stopping at who is responsible either. They are scrapping ALL records of everyone who has ever touched those Discord servers. And there is nothing innocent people can do to appeal or stop this.

    Corporations are authoritarian motherfuckers.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    I‘m more upset about the union busting than their anti-consumer practices but that‘s mostly because I have no interest in buying it. Either way it‘s an insane demand for a company to make. How about just let authorities handle it like everyone else would?

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    [–] 0 points 2 hours ago

    Microsoft owns Discord? Not understanding how they'd provide that info.

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  • [–] 117 points 9 hours ago

    They’re fishing with a dragnet subpoena for everyone on 3 discord servers whether or not they had anything to do with to the leak.

    This is like demanding the lifetime customer history of everyone who had ever gone to a bar where a crime happened.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Oh sick! So if this goes through, precedent is set that anyone who can come up with a reason greater than “my video game leaked”, can legally broker collect harvest request data from select discord servers that can directly tie the real identity of an individual to their windows device id.

    I can’t see that being abused at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago

    Yeah this feels like a turning point. Right now for most people it's a vague threat of privacy most people are somewhat aware of like "meh it's probably fine". If this goes through, it changes to a very real risk of being systematically doxxed at any time by whoever asks.

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  • [–] 70 points 9 hours ago* (1 child)

    Basically, Microsoft spies on everyone. They'll identify you and let the feds trawl through your OneDrive account. On Windows, it actually takes a very conscious effort to NOT upload files to OneDrive.

    They're targeting a guy just because he unknowingly interacted with the suspect. As a joke.

    If anyone questions why people like me have a GrapheneOS pixel connecting to self-hosted cloud storage on a home linux server, this is why.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    OneDrive contents? No company should be allowed access to that. Looks like it's time to encrypt OneDrive. Actually, all cloud storage should have some encryption that doesn't rely on the provider.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 hours ago

    If you upload to OneDrive, and they turn it on by default with the forced login now for online-only 11, you agree that it is not your data anymore.

    Not saying it's right, but if you care (and even if you don't, but I expect people are too addicted to "convenience" to avoid it even if they do care) keep your shit out of the systems of Microslop and Be More Evil, Inc.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    The hypocrisy is strong from this company making a game that glorifies theft.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 hours ago

    Fucking peoples lives over for leaking what is essentially advertising is an insane timeline to be living in. In a proper world, Take-two would get laughed out of court and Microsoft /Discord would be under investigation for spying on its users.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Wasn't there a thread the other week warning everyone about Microsoft device fingerprinting and there were chuds in the comments saying it was a nothing-burger and the fingerprinting was necessary for licensing or some shit? Talk about timing!

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  • [–] 14 points 8 hours ago

    "Ooo, I can't believe I'm going to pay $100 for GTA 6 after all this shit!"

    - A Gamer

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  • [–] 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

    man I honestly do not know how these people are so brave. Seriously. They're going to be absolutely giga-fucked when they're found out, and it sounds like they're going to be since they're using OneDrive, Discord, and it sounds like their crypto address is directly linked to a known crypto exchange who validates IDs. It's only a matter of time. At this point they should be planning on leaving the country IMO.

    Also note how they're asking for Machine IDs. We only heard about their existence a month ago over "security" and already the lawyers are using them. Don't trust non-open-source.

    Take Two won't forget this, they go after mod developers. They're only a step down from Nintendo in terms of their legal pushes.

    If there is no jail (which at this point I'd be surprised), minimum they're going to have millions owed. Guaranteed these are some idiot kids who are going to fuck up the rest of their lives.

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    [–] 17 points 9 hours ago

    Attachment A asks Microsoft to return that identifier for every account that was a member of, or communicated with any of the three listed Discord servers between June 1, 2026 and the present, in addition to the three handles named in the filings.

    I haven't looked in the directions of these servers... and I feel itchy.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    You have to be this stupid if you’re using discord to discuss and plan illegal activities.

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