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What are cis and trans alternate types of? I don't think it's "gender identity" because wouldn't that just be man, woman or nonbinary regardless of whether they're cis or trans? Cis/trans just being a qualifier?

If the answer is "I am cis" or "I am trans", what is the question?

Edit: Someone came up with the term "gender congruity" and (after looking up the definition of "congruity") I think this describes what I'm talking about perfectly.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with what you're stating and I hope that that's where we are headed - there just being man, woman, and non-binary gender identities. For now though, as I see it, cis/trans become relevant in three ways (off the top of my head):

  1. Medical situations - self explanatory
  2. In pursuance of romantic/sexual relations - society is still at the stage where the visual perception of a person lead to certain presumptions. Not everyone may be okay with dating/having sex with a person who has different genitalia than they presumed that their partner would have.
  3. [This point is my personal opinion] The visibility of people openly owning their journey can be a source of information, give courage to others who are undergoing the same journey and are scared or confused. I knew about my orientation way before I realized that there's a term for it or that their are others like me.

I hope I got your query right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You might call the category lived experience. Does your gender identity match your lived experience and upbringing, or does it not? Sometimes you see trans people use the phrase 'man of trans experience' or 'woman of trans experience' to highlight that the word trans applies to history and experience. So the question might be, "what is your gender experience?" or "what is the nature of your gender socialization?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still not sure where the term cis comes from.

It reminds me of sans, as in 'without'

Sans Serrif means a font without the twiddly bits at the end.

Cis Serrif, a font with the twiddly bits it was born with?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if it is their origin, but in organic chemistry nomenclature, cis refers to a molecule whose interesting bits are on the same side (imagine both of your arms up or both of your arms down), and trans to one whose interesting bits are on opposite sides (like if one of your arms is up and the other is down). In the gender metaphor, the two 'interesting bits' are your current identity and your birth identity - cis for when they are the same, and trans for when they are different.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they mean:

'"Cis" and "trans" are examples of what?'

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cis and trans aren't opposites.

You can be both at the same time, or neither. A cis woman prints as a woman to observers; she night also be (or not be) trans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never suggested they were opposites. Elsewhere in this thread I listed white, black and asian as examples of a person's race.

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