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You Used To Be Cool. Pfft, Sell Out (thelemmy.club)

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[-] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 13 points 14 hours ago

i'd rather go back to browsing the 1998 internet on a webTV box than this modern bullshit. no offense to anyone.

the modern internet is a heavily propagandized mild abstraction of real life. the old internet was 'the internet.' it was a playground for nerds, misfits, shut-ins and the regular folk who made the mistake of logging on and trying to talk to the rest of us.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Mild abstraction?

That is far too kind.

Wildly corrupted and monetized via algorithm.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 17 hours ago

My mom told me never to click "I'm feeling lucky" because she thought it had something to do with porn because it's a phrase people would say about sex.

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

That’s hilarious, especially when the the regular search button had almost zero filtering.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

My mom was weirdly prudish in the '90s and early '00s, I don't really know why. Like she wouldn't let me watch Dexter's Lab because she thought it was gross or something? Idk. Weird time.

[-] BetterDev@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

Same here. She stormed into the room to make sure I wasn't up to no good because she heard me say "hardcore" once.

Her reasoning: "hardcore is a kind of porn" lol

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

yeah it was cool back then. but like everything online, profit motives drive idiotic changes

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What is funny is that its not even better now compared to then. It used to be super fast and found everything on the web in an instant.

And today, well, you know how Google search is...

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

A former high-up at Google has stated that they intentionally made the search engine worse a few years ago so that people would see more ads and click on more sponsored links. Now, the best result is #15 in the list, on average.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

~~I don't remember his name, but he got moved to the education department.~~

Someone else had the link.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

"Here's ads, misleading ai slop we generated from stolen content, and forty links to AI generated content that's probably even worse. You might find something human on page 7 of the results. Oops it's a dead link lmao."

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 points 23 hours ago

Google once stated that their primary goal was to get you off of Google property as quickly as possible- IE deliver your search result and get you where you want to go. That was the exact opposite of every other major website at the time (search engines, 'portals', etc) which wanted to keep you in.

It's what made Google great. They were laser focused on the best search experience.

Now their search kinda sucks, it's all AI and fuzzy logic and whatnot and even with quotes and Verbatim it STILL doesn't just search for what I typed in not what you thought I wanted

[-] nycvin@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Prabhakar Raghavan

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 43 minutes ago

I think the problem goes farther back than that. That might be when it got worse, but the place where Google search started to lose its way (IMHO) was when they removed + as an operator so it wouldn't screw up searches for Google+ (their social network at the time). That was the first time they truly put something else ahead of search.

It was also before 2019 that Google search stopped doing what you told it- trying to infer what it thought you meant rather than what you typed in. Verbatim mode makes that better but it's still not perfect.

I don't think anyone's made a better search though. And to be honest I don't think it's possible anymore without MEGA resources.

[-] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago

It’s what happens when companies go public. The ideals of the company go out the door and they care about is profits

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago

become a monopoly by roleplaying as ethical and efficient

fuck your userbase because they don't have nearly as good alternatives

[-] schema@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

OpenAI had the same playbook.

[-] khanh@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

i'd argue that that playbook belongs to anthropic. everything about claude's font and color scheme screams "ethical, productive, efficient, humanist" (we all know that's far from the case)

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago

~~Don't~~ be evil

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago

I mean, I get it, servers cost money, traffic costs money.

But there's a little gray zone between going broke and sucking out every cent possible. Isn't making enough money enough?

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Shareholders need ever increasing value or they will sell their shares. In the US at least, it is illegal to not provide shareholders with value. The only way to reliably get value is to fuck over your customers at every turn and fire half of your employees every few years

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

The old is new again with same bastards in suits. Just like the 19th century railroad craze which had some hedging their money but then lost the investment game.

[-] grranibal@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

Are you exaggerating with the “illegal not to provide value” part?

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

No. Like, go to jail illegal.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

That's the reason we should get rid of publicly traded companies.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Then you would still have private equity firms fucking everyone over, but with even less regulatory oversight.

I think publicly traded companies should be nationalized under an independent and thoroughly-audited oversight body accountable to the taxpayers, and any profits generated should be distributed to fund public works, social services, welfare benefits, and civil sector orgs.

And the idea of infinite growth needs to be abandoned entirely. These major internet companies need to be viewed as a public utility, and their goal should be to provide stable, reliable, quality services rather than churn an endless profit. This can only be done after nationalizing them though.

[-] teslekova@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

We might be able to get the left-libs on board by using tax incentive structures and laws to make it way more attractive for big investors to seek steady profit levels, which would also reduce the necessity to nationalise companies. Windfall taxes are one way, where you take almost every piece of profit above a certain ceiling.

Obviously we should still nationalise natural monopolies like Amazon and Google. Internationalise them, even.

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[-] Emi@ani.social 42 points 1 day ago

I remember before ai I would just find what I needed with the.first link. Now I need to scroll past 3 ad links. Even duckduckgo has sponsored links.

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[-] CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago

Yes. I miss the days when the Wikipedia article was the first result. Now, even with ddg, to get to the Wikipedia article I have to add wikipedia to the query... This is so sad...

[-] unknownman@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

You can disable the AI settings in options. Or manually set "noai.duckduckgo.com"

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[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's how the internet worked out. Everything started out awesome to attract huge numbers of users, then slowly started collecting more and more of our data to use and sell while ramming in more and more ads.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 0 points 16 hours ago

(They were only able to do this at the time because they were being propped up by the CIA!)

[-] HappyCatLuvs_U@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Don't Be Evil ☝️

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Back then running on FreeBSD 2.X.

[-] Dagobertdelta@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago

And no Kubernetes cluster needed to serve a search box. 😉

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Google (www.google.com) is a pure search engine - no weather, no news feed, no links to sponsors, no ads, no distractions, no portal litter. Nothing but a fast-loading search site. For now. Give it a decade.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Lemmy is better than Reddit.

For now.

[-] libewa@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago

Unlike Google, Lemmy (and Mastodon etc.) are FLOSS, so if one instance enshittifies, we can move, even to different ones, fediblock that instance, and continue on. This is the problem with Bluesky: You cannot (realistically) self-host all the ATProto infrastructure, or federate with anyone while not using some service from Bluesky.

[-] alecbowles@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Back then when human rights were cool

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