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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

What's a toddler food.

"Ultraprocessed" includes raw meat

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

since when is raw meat considered ultra processed?

[-] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 50 minutes ago

Maybe it depends on what processes call under "processed"? Like I could see a world where the way cows are treated counts as being processed (being pumped full of drugs and such)

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I can't seem to get a straight answer but it seems most raw meats are in category 4. Salami is category 4.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Forever I think. What category is it in?

[-] spitfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

In the only country that exists inter world, US&A. Caus clearly no other counties exist.

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 11 points 5 hours ago

Why he eating the pizza backwards

[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Crust-first pizza eaters are sociopaths

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Not a pizza. It's the inverse, if you eat only the contents of the calzone and not the crust, you're a sociopath

[-] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 49 minutes ago

I prefer my calzone without the shell.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

If it's inverse they must eat it like reverse bread bowl. Eat only the crust then lick the contents off the plate. Or a spoon... If one were so civilized

[-] Pennywise@quokk.au 6 points 5 hours ago

And then they'll tell you breastfeeding is bad.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

I've never heard anyone say that.

[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago
[-] Pennywise@quokk.au 4 points 5 hours ago

Is typically appeals to vanity. You'll get saggy breasts. No teething issues. Etc.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 41 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

... in the United States

This is the internet. Please consider the audience to be worldwide.

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Unless your country has specific laws to the contrary or is too poor/civilized to have this sort of "lazy parent" food, presume that any of the factory-made shelf-stable food in your grocery aisle is as bad as the equivalent sold in the USA.

(And find out of your country's food laws are actually better than the USA, or just "feel" better because the same exact product can just list fewer ingredients )

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago

It isn't.

That is not to say that the shelf stable food here in Europe is as good for you as a home cooked meal, but America allows ingredients which are literally illegal over here because they're known to cause cancer or other health related issues.

It took the US until two years ago to finally ban titanium oxide as a food additive. You still use horrible foaming agents in your bread, and ingredients derived from processed petroleum byproducts are allowed in your food.

[-] Grannymcgrannypants@lemmy.nz 8 points 5 hours ago

Same here in New Zealand. We have very tight restrictions on food additives, particularly with baby food.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world -3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Your junk and nutritionally empty food is not a better option to feed to children just because it doesn't have a certain yellow die.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

way to miss the point

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It objectively is, as the former has no nutritional value, and the latter is actively trying to kill you.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Again, I am glad I never procreated.

[-] Pennywise@quokk.au 2 points 5 hours ago

Aren't we all?

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 103 points 12 hours ago

Let me see if I can translate this article to a less trendy version:

.About 80% of the packaged foods marketed for children between 6 and 30 months include ingredients only used when creating packaged food at scale. Half of these either contained more fat, sugar, and salt than the WHO recommends or did not abide by the WHO's advice to eliminate food coloring.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 48 points 12 hours ago

Those packaged toddler foods are expensive as well. I’d wager most parents are simply giving their toddlers portions of foods they eat themselves over buying this crap.

[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago

That's how we fed kids before corporations convinced us that kids need packets of pureed veggies in a single use plastics

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

Baby food jars are typically glass

[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

Most of the baby food in my area is plastic pouches

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

They certainly used to be. And probably fancier brands may still use glass.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Ideally yes. However some meals aren't suitable for toddlers, others that simply don't like. Particularly for exhausted parents, having a healthy, tasty fallback can be a sanity saver. Doubly so when on trips.

Treat them like the toddler equivalent of a McDonald's. OK for 1 off meals, a problem when they become the default diet.

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago

When they're that age, you don't have time to make good financial decisions unless you're killing it or one of you gets to be stay at home. Even then it's rough.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago

I understand, my kid isn't that many years from when he was a toddler. These particular processed meals aren't any easier to prep than some cheese and crackers or portioning some from the parent's plate of food.

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[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

I probably wouldn't mind the ubiquitous use of the "new system" from the University of São Paulo if I didn't keep seeing it used incorrectly, with its added category treated as causal of poor health instead of correlated with poor health.

Americans aren't overweight because of the "ultra-processed" portion of our high-calorie high-salt diet. Americans are overweight because our diet is high-calorie and high-salt!

It's entirely possible to have a healthy diet that consists only of "Nova" category 4 foods. And entirely possible to have an unhealthy diet that consists only of "unprocessed" category 1 and "ingredient" category 2 foods.

(And unless it's a damn acronym, "nova" should not be capitalized!)

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago

Americans aren’t overweight because of the “ultra-processed” portion of our high-calorie high-salt diet. Americans are overweight because our diet is high-calorie and high-salt!

Oh, I'd argue strongly that the former is also a factor. For one thing, the whole idea of calories in-calories out is a highly flawed concept that whiffs a lot on how the body actually processes foods. Things like resistant starches and slow-digesting grains are key in absorbing food in a consistent manner that avoids glycogen spikes and delivers a smoother energy experience that helps cut down cravings and vicious junk-food circles, so to speak.

Also, the more processed a food is, typically the less vitamins, minerals, fibre, phytochemicals and so forth it contains, all things the body needs and even craves. And there's a natural tendency to eat when one feels a lack of something, which can be some or all of those things above.

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[-] CarrierLost@infosec.pub 6 points 7 hours ago

Oh man, my brain left out “foods” in the title. Read it as “4 out of 5 toddlers are ultra processed”. This thread turned out WAY different than I was expecting.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago

YSK: ultra-processed is not inherently bad. Bad food, though, is always bad.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

In some ways it kinda is, though. The point of ultra-processing is either (a) to make the food easier to eat, which can be bad because the hard-to-digest parts like fiber are important for health too or (b) make it taste better, which can be bad because it encourages overeating.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This is why I think all babies should have dentures. That way I can throw them a chicken straight out of the yard and tell him to eat it as it, bones and all. The healthiest way. If you aren't eating feathers you aren't going to be healthy.

[-] Codpiece@feddit.uk 38 points 12 hours ago

Four out of five foods sold for toddlers in the United States

[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

MATKETED to toddlers. Nobody is advertising apples and whole wheat.

[-] mochi@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago

It's so hard to find foods that are convenient and not ultra processed. I don't mean you can't find them in the grocery store. They're there, but just the actual integration of prepping and cooking those foods day to day is problematic. We do our best though.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 20 points 12 hours ago

Gotta get em young so they can later keep em dependant on the "health system".

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