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[-] shirasho@feddit.online 23 points 2 hours ago

A few friendly reminders:

It is OK to be wrong. Smart and kind people will not think less of you for being wrong. They WILL think less of you if you dig in your heels despite being presented evidence that proves you wrong.

It is OK to change your opinion or view when given new information. This is how we grow as a species.

[-] cosmos8188@leminal.space 6 points 1 hour ago

Exactly, dont give in to the narcissists which exist, the world is brighter than initially thought. We grow as a species by examining each others opinions and logically contesting them - changing our own or others opinions.

The amount of narcissists and machavellists is not the majority - but they are the loudest, and that loudness is what makes regular people overwhelmed.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago

Would probably make a better president than the shit we have now.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

The other thing, that's even harder to do, is to admit you're wrong about stuff right now, and you'll regret it in the future.

It's easy to look back at your past self and admit that that guy made some bone-headed mistakes. But, the chances are very good that right now you strongly believe some things that will be just as wrong as those other beliefs your past self had.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's a learned skill. Once I realise I am wrong about something, admitting that is trivial. Coming to the conclusion you are wrong is also trivial on hard facts based things. But on emotional topics, that's the real challenge. Admitting "I overreacted, sorry for lashing out", as a prime example.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 58 points 4 hours ago

In full honesty people change. This isn't to forgive negative actions but also not chastise someone to eternity for the mistakes they have made so long as they have changed and are putting in the work to undo the harm they caused. We individually and ultimately as a society need forgiveness. To be human is to error and I personally don't want a part in any community who can not manage the humility to forgive.

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Fuck yeah, we need way more of this attitude. Like, sure, there are people out there that do an apology tour as a grift, whatever, but it's absolutely insane how often people see someone legitimately trying to change and be better and will immediately shit on them like they need to be punished immediately. Do we really want to disincentivise people to change for the better?

I'm 100% unironically for literally punching nazis/fascists when they're doing their bullshit in public. The number one goal any rational person would have for a fascist is for that fascist to not exist. The best-case scenario for this is for them to no longer to be a fascist and renouncing fascism altogether. We must keep in mind that we must focus our anger on the system, not the people. That means publicly and viciously opposing fascism, but also giving people a way to leave that movement. You don't destroy the movement by opposing it alone, you must also starve it of it's members. If enough people leave a movement, that movement loses it's power. I'm using fascism as an obviously extreme example, but the principle(s) applies for any kind of malignant behavior/system.

When someone tries to leave some hateful bullshit behind, pull that motherfucker in. You lose an enemy and gain a friend. +2, bb!

[-] LandBasedDaveyJones@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

To be honest though, I feel like queer people that grew up in that period and before were robbed. It sucks and I don't really know where to place the anger properly. Definitely not on a musician though, personally.

My family, the people I grew up around, yes, but not a musician really, especially when half the time they were probably just looking for an easy rhyme, as compared to someone a foot away from my face saying they wanted to drag me behind a truck. Or saying how wrong it is to be with a guy. I'm not big on ICP but have listened to a few of their songs and if I'm being real I didn't even notice them saying it. But the other stuff... I don't think I'll ever heal from.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Good shit, you get the game. It's all about numbers good bad or ugly. Hate for the idea and the actions, a way out for those looking to change and join the ranks of the opposition.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

A lot of younger people don't realize how far we've come on gay rights in a very short period.

In 1989 84% of Americans were opposed to gay marriage. It didn't break 50% support until 2012. By 2024 it was nearly 70% in support, and all 50 states are now over 50%.

Most of us growing up in the 80s and 90s thought homosexuality was wrong. It didn't feel like we were prejudiced assholes at the time though.

We now know we were wrong, and many of us have worked to make things better. And young people need to accept the fact that we were wrong and have changed.

There's something else we're all wrong about now. An unacceptable prejudice we don't recognize because we don't feel like we're biggots. I don't know what it is and I may never get over it, but the next generation will look back and realize they were wrong about something. And the only way to move on will be to accept they were wrong, forgive themselves, and make the world better.

It's how we improve as a society.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

A lot of younger people don't realize how far we've come on gay rights in a very short period.

A while ago I heard recordings of white house press conferences from the Reagan administration when a reporter started asking about AIDS for the first time.

I was just a kid during the Reagan administration, and not the kind of kid that listened to white house press conferences, so I had no recollection of this.

It was shocking to me how casually they joked and laughed about gay people dying and how they made fun of the reporter for asking the question. It was also shocking that it wasn't just Reagan's press secretary but also the other reporters joining in and laughing.

I found a link to it for another post recently:

When Aids Was Funny

[-] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

those aren't encouraging numbers tbh.

half of the population hating you is a big deal. half of a state hating you, even montana, is a big deal.

a lot of that approval may have to do with cancel culture as well. people may be hesitant to share their real viewpoints even in supposedly safe environments.

if you're a man, go out in public wearing pink sneakers and tell me you don't feel the gaze of other humans.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Centuries of hate going from 84% to 30% in a few decades is fucking fantastic.

[-] Boost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm in my early 30's and I remember the opposition to gay marriage when I was a kid in the 2000's, it was strong and very visible. This was in a Southern California beach town, not exactly a bastion of conservatism. Hell, Obama was opposed to gay marriage when he first ran for president. Things changed very quickly as we entered the 2010's.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 hours ago

I've been dwelling on something I overheard for the last week- "that didn't define me, I transcended it."

Whether it was something I did / mistake I made or something that happened / was done to me, it doesn't define me, I transcended beyond it.

Same as if my boot was stuck in the mud, it was only stuck until I pulled it free. Once I wash the mud off, it's just a boot again.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

There's a story of a rude and hateful boy. He would spend his days hurting others. One day the father said every time you spite someone you will put a nail in our fence. Day after day nails were hammered into the fence. One day on returning home the boy noticed the fence with countless ugly rusting nails sticking out of it and decided then and there to change. Day after day the boy became kind, helpful, and friendly to everyone. The father said to him each day that goes by take a nail out of the fence. Finally one day the boy was removing the last nail. The father said you can work to better yourself and amend wrongdoings but the damage will always be there, be remembered, forgiven but not forgotten. So to my son don't ever fear working to undo the wrongs you have done but know to mind your actions as they will leave a lasting mark on the world and people around you.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

So, the moral of the story is that if you're too kind and friendly your fence will fall apart.

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[-] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I chose my username specifically because I did not realize how misguided I was when I was younger, but when I did see myself I resolved to learn and grow, to be constantly improving myself in some way. That includes reevaluating long-held beliefs, shedding them when they are wrong or hurtful, and apologizing to those who I may have hurt. If it weren't for forgiveness, both from others and for myself, I don't know where I'd be right now but I know it wouldn't be a better place.

All that to say, whoever hit you with that down arrow has lived either a life so pure that they've never felt the longing for forgiveness after wronging another, or a life of pitiful ignorance. Understanding and accepting Violent J's remorse does not mean we condone who he is or what he was, it means we appreciate and respect his humility.

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[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I still think their magnets song was a harbinger of the coming times. While the song itself is full of anti-intellectualism, there's a specific line calling scientists liars.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 34 points 6 hours ago

Well it's not like they called themselves The Sane Tragedian Posse.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 155 points 7 hours ago

Willingness to admit he grew up is something refreshing to see happen.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Based on that alone a safe bet can be made about his politics.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 109 points 7 hours ago

I hope he updates his views on magnets as well

[-] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 hours ago

And scientists.

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[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm always surprise by how difficult it seems for people to admit they made mistakes. I'm not perfect but I think that at least I have the capacity to say I'm sorry and be sincere when I mess up. I've been in quite a few relationships in my life and not many of my partners ever admitted doing something wrong, even when it was clearly the case and I believe they were realising it.

[-] doomchapel666@lemmy.zip 189 points 8 hours ago

yaknow, lots of people make fun of juggalos, but most of the ones ive met have been incredibly caring people that don't judge lol

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Why does that make you laugh out loud?

[-] artifex@piefed.zip 197 points 7 hours ago

Well yeah, otherwise they’d be called judgegullos.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 27 points 6 hours ago

I want to give this person a huggalo.

[-] FoolishObserver@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

Pass around the Faygo so we can all have a chuggalo

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[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 59 points 7 hours ago

They seem to be mostly kind hearted folk that are about the (actual, not proverbial) filthiest humans on the planet.

Like they're gross AF but friendly too. It's certainly a weird subculture but I'd hang out with a juggalo over a MAGA bro any day of the week.

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