The web used to be so small that Yahoo! had real humans doing the categorizing.
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Cool article. I remember the good and the bad. When it comes to search, it has gotten worse over time. I'd love to use some early 2000s Google again. It wasn't perfect, but the bones were there.
Ask jeeves was better at one point. It was an actual toss up which search engine was going to go well early 2000s.
Yep, Jeeves was really popular for a while. I was an Alta Vista fan for a while too. It was one of my favorite early searches.
What I really miss about early web searching is the cached pages where you could see all your highlighted search terms exactly where they appear on the page. Modern google dumps you at the front door to the corporate walled garden and you usually have to search again with some shitty embedded search tool. Old Google would link you to a .htm or .html page with the exact answer.
Any information was available but its veracity was always questioned. And this was before Wikipedia too so the only reliable sources were Encarta and Britannica unless you had a very cutting edge library.
Yeah if you back too far it sucked. If you go to far toward the present it sucks too. Bell curve of performance which is not what I would have expected, but it's what we got. Paid optimization has really fucked it.
The peak was during the period you could say "If you search on Google for ___ you get ___." Back when it was predictable. When they started personalizing results was the moment they sliced society's brake lines.
I remember...I had a Windows 8.1 machine, I needed to SSH into a Raspberry Pi. No Powershell, no native SSH client, the easiest way to get one was to install PuTTY. So I googled "putty". All lowercase, search engines sometimes get fucky when you start doing caps and punctuation, etc. I got an entire page of results for and about the TTY client, and nothing about drywall spackle or non-newtonian children's toys. Because I often search for stuff like that, it made a bet and went all in.
The horrifying part of that is, that innocuous example makes it sound great. I didn't have to overcome the "why did you name it that?" problem and refine the search by adding "tty client" or something like that. By getting to know me it took me to exactly what I wanted to find. When trying to find utility software, that's okay. That's not all people search the web for.
Now it's hooked up to the "You're right to call me out on that" machine, we're sliding down the mountainside upside down on fire.
Yeah, I used to type “putty download”, click “I’m feeling lucky”, and go.
It worked 100% of the time. I wouldn’t try it these days, even if I needed putty.
Some things about the Internet back then really sucked. However, pre-SEO and AI bullshit Internet search was significantly superior to what we have now.
Basically, it was as shit then as Google is currently. Actually, it was still slightly better; at least they acknowledged operator signs in the search (+, -, putting phrases in quotes, etc). Google doesn't even do that anymore.
I think it was better solely for the fact that you wouldn’t get ads in your search results
I remember Google coming out and changing everything.
It had billions of pages instead of millions.
It returned results in seconds, and by seconds I mean 2-3, not 60.
Everything else became irrelevant overnight.
Now Google search is shit.
it's not just google
for the past year or so I've been telling people that DDG is so much better as it actually returns the results you're looking for, which Google stopped doing. except in the past few months, the same thing is happening there now too.
I don't know if it's fuckery with the search engines, people gaming SEO, ads, or if it's just the sheer quantity of shit that's on the internet now, but it's at least half of the time now that I go to search something and it's not in the top half dozen results. and sometimes I can't even find it at all, despite knowing that it definitely exists out there.
DDG been shit for years. I went for it when their campaign was about not being in q bubble and getting unfiltered results. For yesrs everything that came back was hyper local. Search a name you get a doctor or history or spelling correction of someone in my town of 30,000 people or their ancestor. Turn off location puts something generic in top place and then everything else after as normal.
Billions of results and almost never anything relevant after the first page.
I had a list of websites to visit that I kept on a notebook because the only internet I had available was at a cybercafé
AltaVista's advanced search (e.g. the NEAR statement) was extremely effective. Google was never as good even in its best days, nevermind now.
That’s overstating it. There’s a reason Google took over: it was better pretty much all around. The original Google algorithm was a really amazing tool for finding quality content on the web as it existed in those days. That was before SEO drove all these focused efforts on gaming the system.
With that said, Alta Vista definitely was the most promising tool before Google, and it had some potential if it hadn’t been so poorly managed by DEC. They simply saw it as a cool demo for their Alpha server platform, and never had any vision for it as a meaningful product on its own.
Give it back. It will be fine. And since we're asking, make Stumble Upon return from the dead.
Could this be what you're looking for?
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/corners-of-internet/ijaflnclbgjafchiipbgjlgiikbgfabd
I remember when we were all trying to “learn the internet” still and Ask Jeeves was the search engine my school chose and we literally learned in class how to use search engines. I remember the decision of which search engine to use being very murky and changing a few times before they settled on Ask Jeeves
it was chaotic and it was awesome.
randomness of the early internet was a gift.
It isn't a bad thing though, especially compared to what serching the internet has become.
God I miss surfing
Directories and Webrings
Come join KSF! Surf is still very much alive there :D
At least I could finger people from a distance
I see you. Not enough people are going to get this one.
I’m getting so old
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