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[-] xep@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

Our stomach acidity is pretty low too.

that would kill almost anything else

Guess what: It's fact check time!!

Anthrax: ❌

Most birds are naturally resistant to anthrax because of their higher body temperature.

Botulism (actually botox, botulism is the illness caused by botox. You can't quite eat an illness): ✅

"Botulism is one of the most toxic substances in the world, and [turkey vultures'] guts are filled with this bacteria, which apparently has no effect on them," says Graves.

(Yes, the article made the same mistake)

Rabies: ❌

All warm-blooded species, including humans, may become infected with the rabies virus. Birds were first artificially infected with rabies in 1884; however, infected birds are largely, if not wholly, asymptomatic, and recover.

Cholera (actually avian cholera, which is distinct from "normal" cholera): ❓

Besides chickens, the disease also concerns turkeys, ducks, geese, raptors, and canaries.

So 2/4 diseases are already irrelevant for birds but they sound scary because they infect humans. But:

Avian cholera barely even counts because it's caused by "Pasteurella multocida" while (human) cholera is caused by "Vibrio cholerae". The two bacteria are genetically as closely related as humans and mammoths. And avian cholera does not kill anything but birds.

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This isn't to degrade the vulture's ability to withstand pathogens and toxins, that is still very impressive. It's just that obviously birds are immune to most human diseases, as pathogens don't tend to easily jump between distant species.

And even if they DO jump between species, they usually do not bring their "deadliness" with them (unless they produce poison like botox) as different species react completely differently. Maybe rabies is the one exception, as adjusting the behavior of your host by rummaging around in the brain has some universally negative side effects.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

the pic on the lef tis a beared vulture, lammageir, its stomach acid is has unusually lower ph(high acidity) compared to other vultures, because its bones. the acid also destroys bacteria, parasites and viruses , mostly.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 153 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Vultures have been shown to reduce the spread of dangerous infectious diseases at scale.

4 paragraph quote

From this perspective, each vulture species features peculiar skin microbiota compositions, likely involved in singular protective mechanisms of which characterization is yet highly desirable, acknowledging the potential implications under diverse applicative fields. Altogether, state-of-the-art knowledge pinpoints that the cutaneous microbiota constitutes a barrier of microbial, physical, chemical, and immunological nature for the skin [25]. Skin microorganisms represent the first physical barrier against exogenous microorganisms of environmental origin [25]. Here, pioneering microbial specimens promote physical hindrance against the secondary colonization of pathogenic specimens, aside from establishing direct connections with the host, aimed at regulating the differentiation process of keratinocytes [26]. By employing various mechanisms of resistance to colonization, such as competition for nutritional resources, direct inhibition, and/or interference with environmental survival [25], cutaneous microbiota enable, de facto, a microbial barrier that protects from the myriads of pathogenic microorganisms encountered in necrophagic activities [4]. Intriguingly, health-promoting strains of the Staphylococcus genera adopt fine mechanisms to antagonize pathogenic strains of the same genera (e.g., quorum sensing, antibiotic production, etc.) [27,28,29].

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Vultures contribute significantly to maintaining ecosystem homeostasis. Part of their food intake is released as nutrients through their feces, promoting a cycle of nutrients that supports a healthy ecosystem [90]. From this perspective, efforts in the characterization of the fecal microbiota would elucidate the ecological service necrophagic birds provide to other animal species. Furthermore, vultures have been recognized for their public health benefits, primarily because they can efficiently dispose of vast quantities of inadequately managed carcasses, thereby maintaining adequate levels of hygiene in the ecosystem [5].

The pivotal role of the vultures’ unique ability to contain pathogens is attributed to the microbiota associated with the different anatomical districts of their bodies, with the cutaneous microbiota as the main actor [4]. Unlike other animals, vulture skin microbiota is the most populated in terms of microbial abundance and biodiversity. This is likely due to dietary style, since carcasses carry diverse and more specialized microbial communities, interfering with skin microbial development. It can be hypothesized that the taxa identified derive from the dead animal body, such as Methanobrevibacter smithii present in the intestinal district of the dead animals, or from environmental sources like, for example, Xanthomonas spp. and Actinobacillus pleuropneumoniae [4].

Genes identified in the facial region include elements correlated with putrescine [47], one of the main molecules produced in a decomposing carcass, confirming the influence that the carcass microbiota has on the assembly of the host’s microbiota. Further support for this hypothesis comes from the extensive functional diversity observed in microorganisms residing in the facial region. It has been observed that these range from producers of antimicrobials to normal intestinal bacteria and bacteria linked to plants and soil [4], agreeing that there is a significant influence from the environment and carcass on the composition of the facial microbiota. In this regard, determining the carcass microbiota would be necessary for further evaluation of this hypothesis.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12029367/

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 106 points 1 day ago

The cleanup crew doesn't fuck around

[-] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago

I like that account name. It's not "nature friends" or "interesting nature facts" it tells you to please "GIVE A SHIT about Nature" or fuck off.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 1 day ago

And yet they have the mark of shame

[-] Carrot@lemmy.today 3 points 17 hours ago

Could be before it cost money?

Reminds me of the Sky burial done in Tibet. I guess this way you have also less diseases.

[-] SlurryBravo@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago

Sadly, due to a certain drug in dead livestock is causing death in vultures the practice has started to have issues. This was a great podcast about the practice and issue: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/579-towers-of-silence/

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Diclofenac. It is now banned for veterinary use in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. But vulture populations will take decades to recover. Sadly, diclofenac is still used in Spain and some other European countries, and can impact local vulture species.

Sky burial is fine as humans do not eat that much diclofenac anyway, but just to be safe they are banned in China (but not in India or Nepal) for the bodies of people who died of infectious diseases.

[-] hactar42@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Sadly the drugs we inject into cows, mainly NSAIDs, cause them to go into liver failure. This lead to large declines in populations, which in turn caused even worse problems because they weren't eating the diseased carcuses, so other animals would eat them and spread the diseases. Fun times when we think we can control nature.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

its diflenic, the nsaid, like most nsaids they mess with the stomach acid of people(causing acid reflux, and likewise it has a greater affect on the vultures.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 day ago

Now if only we could bioengineer our own stomachs to be that powerful

[-] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 70 points 1 day ago

There are sure to be tradeoffs which would explain why not every animal have evolved similar stomachs. It's probably expensive energy wise to maintain that acidity. It probably also makes it hard to maintain a healthy gut flora. Also imagine the burn if you vomit up stomach acid with pH 1.0

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

It could also be a local maximum that's rare to hit. There doesn't have to be downsides.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Also imagine the burn if you vomit up stomach acid with pH 1.0

Instant free ranged weapon!

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago
[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Betcher’s Gland was present in the Primarchs, we’re looking at around 28,000 years.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago

Much more achievable for the common man

[-] RogueBanana@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Me suddenly feeling nauseous when a cop walks by

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

probably has a very thick mucus layer, plus a robust stomach to withstand the low ph.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Yes, but they can projectile vomit as a defense mechanism. Imagine the possibilities.

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[-] cristigyk@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago

so you're saying vultures are basically flying garbage bins?

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

That’s bin chickens.

[-] ZJBlank@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Compost bins, but yes

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

There's a neat Turkey vulture that likes to hang out on the roof of my garage. The neighbors have a wide open field behind my house. I'm pretty sure he lives nearby.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

You should get checked out by your doctor, maybe he knows something you dont.

[-] mdalin@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

How insanely toxic is their poop though? 🫪

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Well, if it chemically destroys the pathogens, not very.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They squirt shit on their feet like hand sanitizer.

[-] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 1 points 16 hours ago

That's like something from the Flintstones. Vultures above the wash basins.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

thier poop still carry pathogens from the carrion they eat.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

My dog eats a lot of nasty stuff too. If it's not any good, it comes back up.

[-] hactar42@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

That's one of the reasons humans and dogs created such a good symbiotic relationship. They would eat things, like waste and refuse, that if left around would make humans sick. They got an easy meal and we got protection from food borne illness and rodents.

I remember reading an article once about how difficult it is to make dog food. Because they have to make it appealing to dogs while at the same time not making it so gross that humans would be turned off at the site and smell of it.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

Fun fact: rats can’t vomit.

[-] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 2 points 16 hours ago

A sea cucumber eats and shits through the same opening.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

makes sense why rat poison works so well.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago

Vultures are metal af.

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