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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago

"How dare AI companies pirate books to train their AIs! They should be paying for their training data!"

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"Not like that!"

This bit of clickbait outrage has been making the rounds for weeks now. They're using the standard approach to bulk scanning books. The "rare editions" they're scanning are rare because nobody is interested in them. It's stuff like old guidebooks from a particular town fair in 1970 or a book on crochet in early colonial Kansas or whatever, they were sitting in warehouses and would have eventually been pulped if not bought in bulk. This is their one shot at preservation, frankly. And they're doing this because the law requires them to do it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

And in fairness, they should be able to share their scans - with each other, with the public, and with Archive.org.

But that means relaxing copyright, not getting even more tightassed about it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Every fucking website has to find a scandalized take about the several companies buying one (1) of every book.

Most of them were equally scandalized when the same companies did the obvious thing and grabbed a shadow library torrent.

Almost none of them recognize that when they demanded things be done properly - that's what this is.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago
[-] scibra122@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I don't recall anybody demanding AI training involve destruction of physical media

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

They can't resell it, or their scan isn't a "backup copy," it's just piracy again. Same reason they can't share their scans of apparently-rare books nobody's cared enough to put on Archive.org.

Cutting the spine off is the simple way of scanning a mass-produced book. The alternatives are Rube Goldberg devices, or abundant tedious human labor.

What are you asking for, if not this? A private library of obscure forgotten works? A warehouse full of carefully-preserved dead weight? This was always the immediate alternative, and we told you as much, when y'all huffed about simple piracy. Like the average person on Lemmy gives two shits about piracy, outside this context.

[-] scibra122@piefed.social 1 points 9 minutes ago

I asking for them to go out of business if their business model is destroying art to manufacture slop

this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2026
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