If the phone's security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?
They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.
@SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls
and there are more:
Jfc. Next you'll be jailed for not having a phone
Funny how the lemmy liberals never believe that the US is the authoritarian country lol
Really? I feel like I'm constantly seeing complaints about the US's growing authoritarianism.
I mean from the cadre of Anti-russia, Anti-china accounts who try and tell me I am a conspiracy theorist for thinking that the CIA is behind "all world events" despite talking about a specific event where the CIA actually overthrew the country I am from.
They didnt grow to it. Nobody just gave a shit before, because it wasnt against all skin colors.
It's not even about skin color, not really. It's about poverty and people not having a chance to get out of it. I would also commit crimes if I felt my life had no future and im white.
As a consequence, black people commit crimes and white cops become racist because they see that. But its not really about skin color if you look at the full picture.
I think this is misguided and a bit too optimistic. Racist cops don't become racist because of their lived experiences, they're already racist when they take the job.
Oh yeah racism in the US is not about skin color, brilliant take.
It's about poverty, yeah. White people would act the same as black people if they lived in poverty. In fact, you see that happening in America too.
You have to give someone a chance in life or you end up with desperate people. I never understood the idea that poor people should just say no to crime when they have absolutely nothing to live for otherwise. That's crazy.
If you don't think racism is real and not at all based on race you are a literal fucking idiot. Try reading a fucking book whitey. Fanon, George Jackson, Malcom X. Take you pick, not sure you'll have the comprehension to understand.
I think I may be more intelligent then you actually... :)
Anyway, see you around.
I think you're probably equally intelligent unfortunately
Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.
pedophilia (if you are rich)
You don't even need that first part. Being rich makes it 10x harder for you to be prosecuted.
Even convicted pedo can avoid prison https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case
Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.
And manslaughter with a car.
That's an instant death sentence if the person you're running over is an ICE agent, however.
With the caveat that, if you don't achieve those profits, it will land you in jail.
For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear
You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.
This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.
Or just set it to your mmddyy or something typical for weak passwords
And that person is the officer that destroyed the evidence
Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it
Not if you live within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit. The court "ruled that a lower standard applies to manual searches, allowing the government to conduct extraordinarily invasive electronic device searches without any suspicion of wrongdoing, simply because the border officer chooses to search by hand rather than with a forensic tool."
they are evil and hypocritical is what they are.
they want to make an example out of people trying to escape the panopticon.
Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.
Nothing is needed. Erase your shit before you travel in or out of the US.
You can already have multiple independent users in graphene (maybe in stock android too idk). You have to switch them before the possible search though.
I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.
Or loads a dummy profile and deletes other profiles without giving away what is happening.
Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.
Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.
Any duress pin use should be covered under a person's right to avoid self incrimination.
If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.
this is what peak democracy™ looks like, dont be fooled
This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
Except that this person wasn't accused or even suspected of a crime.
How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I'm allowed to delete my files, aren't I?
Not quite. If you know or shouldreasonabley believe someone is about to arrest you or sue you, depending on the circumstances, judges can tell juries to assume the erased data would show something bad. But it depends on the details.
Be careful not to swallow your spit. They may think you're swallowing a bomb and shoot you on the spot.
In order to be convicted of destroying evidence, there needs to be proof that there was "evidence" on the phone in the first place.
If something on the phone is already known without doubt, then what's the need for access? if there is doubt at the time of the wipe then there is no proof or destroying evidence. 🤷♂️
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