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[–] 121 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.

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  • [–] 128 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.

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  • [+] 88 points 1 month ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 108 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Not if you live within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit. The court "ruled that a lower standard applies to manual searches, allowing the government to conduct extraordinarily invasive electronic device searches without any suspicion of wrongdoing, simply because the border officer chooses to search by hand rather than with a forensic tool."

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/fourth-circuit-says-border-agents-can-search-your-phone-hand-no-suspicion-required

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    [–] 60 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.

    Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.

    Any duress pin use should be covered under a person's right to avoid self incrimination.

    If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Alternately, a user profile that isn't displayed anywhere, but accessible only through a specific PIN, maybe. Not sure how you'd explain the storage space either option used, however.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It should work like truecrypt used to where there's no sign some of the encrypted blob is not actually visible in the fake os.

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    [–] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.

    This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.

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    [–] 40 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    this is what peak democracy™ looks like, dont be fooled

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    [–] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.

    Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago

    No it wipes the data from the phone

    GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    In order to be convicted of destroying evidence, there needs to be proof that there was "evidence" on the phone in the first place.

    If something on the phone is already known without doubt, then what's the need for access? if there is doubt at the time of the wipe then there is no proof or destroying evidence. 🤷‍♂️

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    [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If the phone's security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    @SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls

    and there are more:

    • United States v. Fricosu
    • United States v. Doe (2012)
    • United States v. Kirschner
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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    And that person is the officer that destroyed the evidence

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Funny how the lemmy liberals never believe that the US is the authoritarian country lol

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Really? I feel like I'm constantly seeing complaints about the US's growing authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They didnt grow to it. Nobody just gave a shit before, because it wasnt against all skin colors.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    It's not even about skin color, not really. It's about poverty and people not having a chance to get out of it. I would also commit crimes if I felt my life had no future and im white.

    As a consequence, black people commit crimes and white cops become racist because they see that. But its not really about skin color if you look at the full picture.

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