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[+] 145 points 1 month ago (31 children)
  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Interestingly most Psych units I've worked (US) serve (roughly timed):

    0800 - breakfast

    • along with a lightly caffeinated coffee or tea, the only caffeine routinely served

    1200 - lunch

    1700 - dinner

    2000 - snack

    • usually prepackaged chips and crackers, sometimes cookies or ice cream. The long stay hospital gave the patients 25¢ for every group they attended and they could order nicer stuff from the staff member who made the weekly Walmart trip.
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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

    Wrong way round.

    High tea is/was the working class term for an evening meal as it was had at the table, and it would usually include cooked meat.

    Afternoon tea is the posh one in the afternoon with the cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    There also was a contemporary nuncheon "light mid-day meal," from noon + Middle English schench "drink."

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/lunch

    It's fucking beverage all the way down in English.

    Bonus:

    BRIBE. Lunch'd O dear! Permit me, my dear Mrs. Prattle, to refresh my sponge, upon the honey dew that clings to your ravishing pouters. O! Mrs. Prattle, this shall be my lunch.

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    [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There's morning tea which is a light meal between breakfast and lunch.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    And there's tea time, which is dinner, and also tee time, which is a golfing thing.

    And there's also the long dark tea time of the soul, which is a book by Douglas Adams

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Why is this usage of tea so confusing for everybody? We re-use words all the time in English. It's a very simple concept. Imagine if a musician asked about the key of a song and everybody was like "KEY? LIKE A CAR KEY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SONGS DONT HAVE KEYS! IVE NEVER BEEN SO CONFUSED IN MY LIFE"

    Up north we say "tea" for evening meal. That's it. Explanation sorted.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Terrible example and it's just demonstrating that you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes for even a moment.

    You understand that usage of tea because you used it your entire life, someone who hasn't would rightfully be confused.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Ok it was a deliberately silly example for emphasis. Here's a real example. I went to Australia once and in the airport somebody referred to my Mentos as "lolly". To me, lollies are on a stick. Apparently not to aussies. It threw me off for half a second, but that's it. Confused is an overstatement.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Yeah but the context clues are a hell of a lot easier there. You're holding an object, and if someone called it a chupa-chupa or a sucker most people would be able to put that together pretty easily

    Now imagine you're going through stretches and someone walks in and is like "oh, playing football are you". You could be preparing to go outside and play football... But you're just stretching

    I think most people would be confused by that unexpected second meaning of a familiar word

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It still confuses me that I can have a cup of coffee with somebody without actually drinking coffee. (In English and my mother tongue as well.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    As a coffee drinker, if I was invited for some coffee and did not in fact get any coffee I'd be both a little confused and a little annoyed.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yeah, but as someone who grew up down south and has lived in the north for the majority of my life:

    Breakfast, lunch, dinner

    Very clear, no fucker doesn't know what you're talking about

    Breakfast, dinner, tea

    What the fuck are you playing at, skipping lunch and having a drink to compensate?

    Get in the sea

    Tea is important enough in this country to not use the word again, especially not for the second most important thing: dinner

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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    If they didn’t want to have tea, why the fuck were they making it at tea time?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well, according to British Standard 6008 (ISO 3103), the preparation of a liquor of tea requires a tea leaf.

    I don't know why I have that knowledge in my back pocket, nor the urge to share that information, but there you go.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Is that like how every soft drink is a coke in the American south?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Have I been confused this when time? If I get invited to have tea am I being invited to a meal? I thought it was like getting coffee.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Offer of a hot beverage:

    • Would you like a tea?
    • How about a tea?
    • (Shouting from kitchen) - Tea?

    Even less ambiguous if cuppa/brew etc. is used Typically only offered in the morning or afternoon if you have just 'popped round'.

    Offer of dinner:

    • Would you like to stay for tea?
    • Come round mine for tea
    • Have you had tea yet?
    • Oh you should stay for tea

    Typically if you you weren't intending on staying or are being explicitly invited over.

    Don't see how any of this could be confusing at all to people not born into it with innate understanding 😅

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    [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Haha, wow! People in different cultures have different words for different things!

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    It was a subtle hint to request tea be made by the person already using the oven/stove.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Apparently some Australian families refer to the midday meal as "dinner" instead of "lunch" which I only learned after hesitantly sitting down for "dinner" at 1pm.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Very common in the UK too. Lunch is dinner, dinner is dinner, dinner is tea, tea is also a specific type of afternoon meal (scones and sandwiches).
    Even then, people will just say something like 'morning tea' instead of breakfast.
    It's a linguistic war zone.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    What the fuck.
    Have never heard anyone call lunch anything other than that, unless it is a tradie who might say 'smoko' for lunch or a 15 minute snack break.

    Aussie terms for meals:
    Breakfast/brekkie
    Morning tea/smoko*
    Lunch (or brunch if its ~9-11am)
    Afternoon tea/arvo tea*
    Dinner/Tea
    Dessert/Sweets*

    *morning/arvo tea are primarily for social sit downs and would be like biscuits/scones and a cup of tea/coffee (having a cuppa with friends/family, small meetings with clients, retirees with nothing better to do)

    • dessert/sweets is if your having something after dinner, like some pie/crumble with ice cream, pancakes, etc)

    Also 'entree' is a small course before the main meal in dinner, the USA confused the fuck out of me when i visited.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Back in the day, the noon/midday meal was called dinner also in the US. Particularly in rural areas. And for some of us boomers it's still dinner. Growing up on a farm, Breakfast was 6am-ish thing after chores were done, (you could sneak in some jelly toast before chores if you weren't to lazy to get up early enough), the noon dinner, and you always came home to eat it, was a full meal deal because you had spent your morning often doing heavy manual labor. Plus your afternoon was going to be no different. You got lunch a 4pm because supper was a 7pm-ish meal, (often heavy on the "ish" part depending on what went wrong during the afternoon).

    We evidently didn't get the memo about changing dinner to lunch until much, much later. Besides, we would have needed to rename "lunch" to something else for the 4pm break. I still call the noon meal dinner to this day. You can call it whatever you like, because I don't sweat those details.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    We also say "tea" when referring to gossip.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I suppose hot chicken broth could be considered a tea?

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