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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

The "cars mean freedom" meme of the past few generations needs to die so bad. Cars are conformity.

Cars are consumerist. Cars are alienating. Cars kill cities. Cars fucking suck. Electric cars fucking suck too.

I'm not denying some people need one, but when I'm driving a car it's only because I'm out of all the better options.

PS I'm sorry if you reading this like cars, I also like some bad things. But that doesn't make them not bad.

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 29 points 3 days ago

Coming back from my small island devoid of mass transit, I took a Paris->Marseille train and legitimately rediscovered the luxury of cutting through the entire country in 3hrs time without so much as a bump or a honk. No wine was involved though

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

I took cross country train trips in both the United States and Italy this year, and the difference was striking. Going over 200MPH from Naples to Florence with my pick of several high speed departures per hour compared to riding the Lake Shore Limited and spending over an hour in Buffalo as it couples the Boston and New York legs together because running 2 trains a day is a bit too much for Amtrak.

I will say that the old Amfleets had far comfier seats though!

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago

When I was a truck driver, audiobooks were the reason I absolutely didn't mind traffic jams.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ironically the Acela in the northeast corridor of the USA does have a bar car where you can buy and drink wine / beer. It is the commute for lots of people, it was Biden's commute when he was a senator.

[-] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

I love Acela but damn if I don't buy tickets a month in advance it so expensive. We need more light rail infrastructure to drive their price down.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

i'm curious how light rail would help the acela? Surely what the acela needs is just.. more departures..

[-] blah42@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Love the acela! Just got an automatic full refund due to a 2hr delay, imagine that happening on any other form of transport.

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago

This reads as if all Europeans ride trains in Alps multiple times a day. Guys... Nice view might be somewhere in Italy, France or Switzerland. Your typical speed train from Berlin to Frankfurt would have only fields and woods, and occasional city pass-through.

This also applies only to countries where rail network is developed. Take some Baltic countries or some far east Europe countries and your commute from city A to city B in a train would be a mild annoyance at best and a nightmare at worst. You'd also be lucky if train goes more than 3 times a day or if trains go more than just capital to 2nd biggest city. Driving car in these countries is bareable. Also, population density makes it not feasible to connect two cities with a population around or lower than 20k with each other.

Source: Latvian who moved to Germany.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

are you saying fields and woods isn't a nice view? lol

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Riding into Frankfurt for example can be quite nice tho. You see the skyscrapers in the distance while riding at 250-300 km/h through gently rolling hills dotted with small villages while drinking your free bahnbonus beer...

True: riding trains is not all alpine landscapes dreamrides, but it's often through a nice landscape nonetheless, just not as spectacular. Being in a 1h delayed train still beats being in a 1h car traffic jam imo

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've taken a train through ~~Baltic~~ Balkan countries. Granted it was Croatia to Slovenia, but holy shit the ride toward Ljubljana along the Sava felt idyllic. However even a more mundane urban train commute in Europe would be eye-opening to most Americans. The tweet is being intentionally hyperbolic.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

Yes lol thank you.

estonian here, it's lowk chill here.

[-] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

far east Europe countries

Does Slovakia count?
The shorter routes can be fairly slow. "Finally, we are going fast! The train has reached the top speed of 40km/h!"
Also, some older units can be awful. No air-conditioning is one thing. But I also encountered a different issue. I don't have a noise level meter, but if you're taking something like the old railbus between Zvolen and Horná Štubňa, bring hearing protection. I at least had earphones, but god damn, that shit is loud.
Congrats, you took a train ride through a rural area. Side effects may include: heatstroke, muffled hearing, tinnitus.

[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I posted this exact screenshot on the fuckcars sub on Reddit. I was hoping there would be people here who understood the spirit and point of the post instead of squabbling over traffic and trains and how often people are in traffic and whether people take trains through the Alps or not.

I'm sorely disappointed.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I posted to reddit

I'm sore disappointed

Well you did this to yourself

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[-] angelmountain@lemy.nl 11 points 3 days ago

Funny cause its true

[-] lunaowo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

I think this person has never been to germany

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

for all that germany is car-brained it's so much fucking better than america it's hilarious to even compare them, when germans consider their public transport "unusably horrid" it's still better service than most of america can even fathom running.

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