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I have a VPS that I secure as much as possible since the IP is public, but does a wireguard-access-only homelab warrant the same efforts? Those with homelabs like this, what do you do?

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[-] jobbies@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

You're kind of there but if you live the zero-trust life always be on the lookout for ways to improve security.

If something will make your setup more secure, is low effort, uses few resources and costs you nothing it would be madness not to use it.

[-] nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 16 points 23 hours ago

I have a hammer hanging above the hard drive on a string, and every time I want to access it, I have to convince an AI it's really me. If doubt level rises above 20%, the hammer drops.

i duct-tape a 22 to the side of the server with the trigger trip-wired to the wan port.

your move, iptables

No salt circle to prevent hostile spirits from possessing it? No anti-seabear circle? Talk about amateur hour.

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

And while YOU were worrying about the seabear, you foolishly forgot your anti sea rhinoceros undergarments?!?!

[-] in_the_dark_forest@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I have my home server behind a wireguard vpn access.

While I am no security expert, or precisely because of that, I still try to follow security best practices for the internal setup if I can.

Of course you propably do not have to be as vigilant as if your services were publicly exposed. But I believe it is still a good idea to have some "defence in depth" and not assume only one possible attack vector, e.g. what if there already is a bad actor on your home network maybe via a trusted device that has some virus. Also a plus is i guss if you ever decide to expose something later on you wont have as many issues.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

If it's just wireguard on a nonstandard port, then you are pretty much done. It's UDP and won't reply to incorrectly signed packets so it's essentially invisible.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago

Putting it on a non standard port will change nothing

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Security through obscurity is not sufficient. It's also not nothing.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago

Wireguard doesn't respond to port scans so it changes nothing

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Assume a security researcher finds a bug in wireguard that, if sent a malformed packet, it can crash the service. Then it would be trivialy easy to send that packet to the default port on every IP address and just crash everything for fun.

It costs me nothing to increment the port by 1 and avoid all that drama.

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 3 points 15 hours ago

And, to be fair, you'll know more about your setup when you don't use the defaults as you have to learn more...

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It is going to make fingerprinting more annoying while evading default port scans. That isnt nothing but you do you boo

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

VPS bad!

Can't put your rings of garlic around it.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My home servers have generally a lot smaller attack surface, as only a few ports are actually routed to them, so in theoey I could get away with a more relaxed approach. But I'm also a big believer in defense-in-depth, so I follow the same rules of thumb:

  • iptables (or equivalent) that drops anything incoming that isn't wanted. It also rejects anything going out that isn't planned for.
  • any public facing service (except ssh) gets its own user
  • disable root login via ssh
  • ssh login with key only on any user in sudoers
[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, I do lock it down. It's still worth securing it because "internal servers" can still get exposed and touched, even though there are less paths to them, and it's not as punishing to slip up vs a public server. For example, One of the wireguard client devices downloads a virus, and now you have a cyberattacker with access.

Another problem is supply chain issues. If the distributor of a docker container is hacked, it's not that bad... as long as your kernel is up to date and is protected against some of the recent vulns, that would enable someone to break out of a docker container

Blajah.zone's lemmy instance was hacked partially becuase internal servers weren't being held to the same security standards as the public ones:

https://pen.blahaj.zone/supakaity/weve-been-hacked

I had not patched these internal servers that nobody should have access to against this. Rebooting DB servers causes downtime, and in my hubris – I thought nobody should (nay COULD) be on my servers except me, right?

I have a comment on that post with some potential solutions, that would have cut off attack paths.

Though, I guess, it still does depend. Like if it's just gonna you wireguarding in and no one else, then the data on your devices is probably worth more than the data on the server, so no, it wouldn't be worth spending too much effort to secure less valuable data.

But if you are handing out internal access to people, including to some relative who keeps falling for scammers, then yeah, I'd take some time to harden the systems.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I use pangolin and traefik together and expose a few of my services that way. But not everything.

I slot services into categories based on:

  • do I really need to be able to access this externally?
  • …with full admin rights?
  • what write/delete access am I granting?
  • if an attacker got in, how much damage could they do with what they could access?

Then the service is either not externally open at all, secured behind pangolin SSO, or secured behind pangolin SSO AND that service’s native auth. Which is an annoying double auth, but I feel like it’s another layer of protection in case one of them gets a 0-day exploit.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

After installing tailscale with my Headscale server, I just left it as is. Maybe people in the comments can chime in but if you expose only your VPN server or broker (Headscale), you kinda narrowed down your attack vectors and a VPN itself is really solid. From my basic knowledge, it's the server and client which are the bottleneck at that point, but there's only so much you can do and if you continuously update both and maybe stay on stable / ltsc branches, you kinda did everything.

I guess there's something to say about the encryption algorithms used. What I remember from back in the day is everything elliptic curves that's common is quite good so if you see "ECDSA" / "ECDH" you should be fine. RSA unfortunately is not that great anymore.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

You should consider the VPN as a part of the protection (and also as a part of an attack vector).

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I run a weekly vuln scan against my ip ranges. If anything comes up I deal with it.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Could you provide some more information on how you perform a vuln scan, or what services/softwares you use to perform the scan?

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I use tenable but i get it from work for free. You could use Nessus.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Tenable owns Nessus. But they have a free tier.

The FOSS equivalent is Greenbone OpenVAS: https://greenbone.github.io/docs/latest/

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