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[-] hotspur@hexbear.net 65 points 4 days ago

They cannot run Harris…. They cannot. Fuck, guess they’re running Harris.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

She only became the nominee last time because she was forced onto voters. She's never won even one state in the primaries and, if they ran her, she'd mostly just act as a spoiler for the other neoliberal candidates.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

vermin supreme probably has more primary votes than her

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

you know for an LLM that supposedly isn't weighted to favor a political candidate getting a "yes vermin supreme has more presidential primary votes than Kamala Harris" out of Google's llm was like pulling teeth. how curious, i'm shocked

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 35 points 4 days ago

Nah it's gonna be Newsome. I would bet every last dime in my bank on that.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago

Newsom opposing the Cali wealth tax but saying hes supportive of a federal wealth tax is very funny

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 4 days ago

B-b-b-but! They'll just move somewhere else!!!

[-] haxboar@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

Wait, you mean the people who use our resources, don't pay taxes, and are generally a blight on the politics of the region would leave?

Awww man.... that sounds so awful.... so sad.... don't go......

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

if california was a less desirable place to live i could maybe understand it. there's no risk of wyoming passing a wealth tax but the richest prick there could move to any neighboring state and live exactly the same life. the decent places to live have more leverage than any liberal would ever admit.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 35 points 4 days ago

Just heard on the news how he's forcing state WFM employees back into the office. Gotta keep your real estate benefactors happy.

[-] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Newsome with Harris as VP, lmao

[-] hotspur@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah that seems more realistic. Newsome is the only Dem like that with national standing and the profile at that level. Just can’t believe Kamala would even make motions about running, such a joke.

Pritzker could be also, but I feel like newsome is better known and “more presidential” looking, I guess.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago

She's gonna run but it'll be Newsome or Pritzker probably

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

Would be hilarious if they ratfucked Pritzker for being even more milquetoast than Sanders.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I genuinely hope it's Pritzker, purely because I can do a solid impression. (It's actually just my Trotskyist Fred Flintstone, but somehow it kills with Illinoisan family)

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

I do too but mainly because I hate Newsom so much more.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Record it on vocaroo (so it can be anonymous) or something and link it, I'm part of your Illinoisan family (not literally but whatever).

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sorry not anonymous enough, I have a distinct voice and don't want to connect this site to other places where I use my voice on the internet.

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Dose everyone with mind altering gas afterwards.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

Ah, but what if I were to dose everyone with mind altering gas first, then it will be the funniest thing they've ever heard. Oh ho ho, delightfully devilish, Emma!

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

No worries!

[-] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

If she runs in the Dem primary she'll do about as well as she did in 2020.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

I hate to say it but I think she has a much better chance now; people reaaaaally hate Trump

[-] fox@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Look, Biden is the only guy to ever beat trump and he lost like five presidential bids during his career. Harris is way behind and won't be ready to beat trump until she's lost four or five more primaries

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

To be fair I think Harris is trying to speedrun those failures by being a failure of a human being

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If they never re-ran Clinton, they'll never run Harris again

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For the better part of 10 years now people have been screaming for a leftist alternative and the DNC told us to go pound sand. NOW she sees the writing on the wall that people are finally fed up with DC insiders and lanyards and she corrects course. Thanks for wasting all that time coconut lady.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago

democrats are pining their hopes that seppos will forget + be annoyed with trump crudeness, and that's not a bad bet to make. after all they already half forgot in 2 years.

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

Say what you will but left leaning seppos not capitulating to liberals on the harris ticket, which partially paved the way for trump, has been the best thing for the country and world. Trump has single-handedly destroyed any remaining credibility the states have, destroyed the western economies by revealing their complete reliance on imperialism and fraud, led to the rise of Iran and the cementing of China's power, pulled the mask of sanity off of Israel in a way no one can reasonably deny, and given developing nations some much needed breathing room.

Now leftward is the only direction the country can move unless it wants to completely implode (which it still might).

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago

Okay, but have you considered 🥥?

[-] Athena5898@hexbear.net 35 points 4 days ago

"Don't you believe people can learn and grow!" Yes; however, as soon as you touch a leadership position in a fascist, racist country, I am going to not give a shit how much "they grow". Cause I just am not going to fucking believe it. Ironically, if any of these people actually grew and changed, they wouldn't be running for political office. They'd be down in the dirt with the rest of us trying to actually help people to try and make amends for the shit they have done.

[-] free_casc@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Elected leadership is not a position of growth, it is necessarily a position of compromise (not entirely a bad thing). "Our" [left of liberal] candidates need to be coming in from the strongest postiion possible, cause the machine is going to chip away at you. Winning elected office is a matter of achieving these non revolutionary objectives:

  • expand the ideology/demonstrate what is possible
  • demonstrating that the establishment is unable to achieve a socialist future
  • forcing [some, limited] compromises from those to the right of you through the legislative process

Any and all of these require firm principles, in spite of the pressure that one will receive.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

Also, it’s a hard sell to the masses that the vanguard party should manage the affairs of the state post-revolution without said party making a practical demonstration that they can do that.

[-] free_casc@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

Yep a common liberal talking point during the elections is "my opponent is too inexperienced to lead". It is a fine talking point, and rings true no thanks to the fact that liberals obviously dont care to cultivate future socialist leaders on their staff (or otherwise).

Of course it doesn't matter, given that liberals are so experienced at doing a garbage job at leading! There is more to it than experience alone!

I remember there was a Hakim video where he was discussing "what should one do if they want to 'be a good socialist' or something like that?"

Well first, join a socialist party and get to work, if that isn't a good fit for you, then organize some other way in your work place or community. You can also (instead of or in addition to the previous) develop professional skills that fundamentally support society. There will still be a need for civil engineers, medical professionals, equipment technicians, bus drivers etc.... after the revolution. if your politics are on point your knowledge will be all the more useful.

Same goes for leadership skills imo

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

puyi got a broom not a seat in government

[-] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Puyi got a broom after he got a guided tour of the devastation in Manchuria and an explanation of how it was his fault. He would apparently sob and beg for forgiveness.

I have a hunch that someone like Harris would never stop being a ghoul, even if shown around Palestine.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

certainly not when the structure that gave her power is still around. redemption is for when you're stable, powerful, and aren't risking any counterrevolution.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

I won some elections but quit when I realized that the police were going to kill me (if I kept voting to defund them) and no one was going to stop them. I am very much down in the dirt now lol give me a broom.

[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

"none of the above vs. someone else vs. AOC vs. harris" is gonna be quite the DSA shitstorm yea

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago

I wonder how many times she cut them off to let them know that she's talkingcontextphobic

[-] red_giant@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Closed-door meetings Closed-door meetings Closed-door meetings Closed-door meetings

Wow so progressive, she doesn’t even want to be seen in public beside a Palestinian even when the polling tells her that’s the issue she lost on.

Absolute garbage.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago
[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 days ago

Into a wall? 🤞

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