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https://xcancel.com/IbsiNow/status/2071291805438558607

When you kick out French imperialists, and then roll out the red carpet for the Zionist entity. kombucha-disgust

Massive Troaré L. Thomas Sankara must be spinning in his grave right now.

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[-] miz@hexbear.net 60 points 3 weeks ago

reposting this Boise_idaho comment from the news mega

Interesting commentary (alongside the dude just ranting):
https://xcancel.com/DavidHundeyin/status/2071760347799683534

3 days after Traoré is all over the news for breaking off diplomatic relations with France, which gets a good reception, some obscure christian zionist Twitter handle puts out a bullshit tweet portraying a routine change of an accredited Israeli ambassador (based in Cote d'Ivoire) as "Traoré developing closer ties with Israel" and you bunch supposedly "anti-imperialist" dumbasses fall for the headfake instantly without making any attempt to even understand what you are looking at.

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

good list of usernames to not pay attention to anymore though

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

I've been coming to believe through threads like these that the leading ideology of Hexbear is "Marxism-Leninism-Gobshitism": people with underdeveloped leftist ideas come to Hexbear; eventually become reliant on Hexbear for their social needs; and what ends up happening because of this arrangement is that "leftism" here just becomes a series of memes that people endlessly quote at each other as a signifier of group belonging, or "kulture" as I call it. I wonder if some of the people here have subconsciously convinced themselves that by merely being on Hexbear, they're developing their understanding of the world, as if developing one's knowledge through this site doesn't require active will, effort, and struggle, just as developing one's knowledge through any other means.

So, many people here make no effort at deeper understanding: trying to have the correct reaction to a headline at a glance alone, is merely a game of call and response to see who belongs here the most.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

it has its flaws but this is the only social space I have that isn't suffocating in capitalist death sludge making me feel like I'm the only person who gives a shit

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's how it is for me too.

[-] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Over time I've increasingly felt the same. I like to delve into the weeds and why people do the things they do, it's my way of reconciling contradictory narratives that all appeal to something that's fact; "seeking truth from facts" basically. But instead I often get people jumping to conclusions or making hyperbolic statements that I'm getting increasingly tired from.

When I recently asked for counternarratives to the Western narrative that explains the jihadist insurgencies in the Sahel ("AES and Russia did too many war crimes, we were right to warn them about the Russians"), the few answers that I did get were short "the French are funding terrorists" narratives, which to me just seems like a mirror of liberals handwaving dissent as "Russian interference".

On Lemmygrad I got a longer response but the only alternative explanation for people joining that jihadist groups was just "poverty", which felt incomplete because not every poor place turns to militancy simply when given the chance. And I still felt like I was being told to just take their word that the Sahel states won't fall like Syria did, where foreign funding of HTS doesn't explain why the Syrian Arab Army just fled and let them take the country.

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 53 points 3 weeks ago

Wait till you hear about China

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

China deserves to be shit on for that as well. Like I've said before, not everything has to be defended.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Most Chinese people are not happy about it either I think.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

All but one Chinese person who I've discussed Palestine with is pro Palestine. The pro Israel one was hanging out with a pro Israel German dude and I think was just bad at English and uninformed as he seemed to know nothing.

[-] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

But but but but but le hexBORING tunkies love authoritarianism!!!!!!!!

(A lot of situations more local to me don’t feel particularly well understood on here but I’m sympathetic to those willing to look past the reflexive thinking reinforced throughout life)

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Chana@hexbear.net 40 points 3 weeks ago

I get the general sense that Traoré et al are more national liberationists than anti-imperialists. And the veneration of Sankara is in a similar vein. But I am really unsure about what the underlying political realities are.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago
[-] companero@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago

He's been too friendly with the UAE for a while so I kinda saw this coming sadness

[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 weeks ago

Why act so surprised that one of the poorest nations on earth is forced into geopolitical pragmatism? You have forgiven streamers for worse.

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know if this is directed at me personally, but I don't forgive streamers, let alone follow any of them. This tendency of always having to defend the indefensible is probably one of the most annoying things in our community. Sometimes you can just let people be upset or disappointed when a bad thing happens. It doesn't automatically mean that people will drop all support. The term "critical support" exists for a reason.

Also, using the excuse of them being poor to defend an anti-imperialist leader for strengthening ties with Israel is quite something when there are poor countries out there (like Yemen and Cuba, just to name a few) who chose to stand with the oppressed over so called "geopolitical pragmatism" when dealing with a genocidal apartheid state.

[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago

It depends entirely on the implementation, & whether they have the resilience to manage foreign capital. I disagree with the moral framing of trade ties in general, so there is no excuse involved. Yemen is whole other can of chicken, of course ideally we would all be Yemen, unilaterally close off the first world to force a reorganization of the imperialist structure into something compatible & not parasitic. Yemen is struggling & the non-aligned movement is practically dead. If you disagree that foreign investment controls can be used to redirect resources from hostile nations into positive results, we can wait and see. I wouldn't justify Brazil having military ties to Israel left over from Bolsonaro, different position, different ties, I only compare them because we could do so using headline-reaction moral outrage.

No, I'm not monitoring your media consumption habits, when a post gets a lot of interaction I tend to just ignore the comments & let people fight it out, it wasn't directed at you specifically

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[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Angel@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

my goat washed

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago
[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah I'm gonna wait until I hear the justifications/corrections about this visit from actual officials of Troare's government and not from the self-serving mouth of some blood diamond zionist hawk who lies as he breathes

Either this is kayfabe to buy time to prevent American drone strikes or the US helping France arm ISIS....

Or Troare is a zionist all of a sudden, time and more info is needed

Edit: And what do you know, turns out it's complete bullshit https://xcancel.com/DavidHundeyin/status/2071760347799683534, our resident doomers can stop flagellating themselves for daring to support an African leader

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Edit: turns out the Israel thing is bullshit, huzzah!!

Between this and being a massive queerphobe...

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[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

whatever will burkina faso do without your support…

[-] Sabbo@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

What are they gonna do with your support...

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

We can support anti-Imperialist projects while also recognizing that things like queerphobia in these places are vestiges of Colonialism that were imposed by the west.

Knew something like this was going to happen when the UAE was involved way too much in the AES (Mali's primary trading partner is the UAE) just wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt

[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

I mean it would be pretty amnestic to see them working with one regional subimperialist & think they wouldn't do this when China and Vietnam have done the same. It's part of the same pole as US, Japan, Europe, Aus, RoK, Singapore, this is how the global trade system works. You get crowbar'd into working with imperialists no matter what. Autarky failed, the periphery got left behind. Exception might be DPRK, which was able to make something out of the sacrifice & never rolled back & became a neocolonialist hellhole in any respect.

  1. it's unpopular decision and very unlikely to be appreciated by the population.
  2. it gives legitimatacy to the IS groups.
  3. Burkina Faso will gain nothing from working with the entity, the entity will gain more from it.
  4. this will kill any chance of working with Algeria, Iran or the DPRK.
[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
  1. strongest point but consider they don't have DSA twitter users there

  2. ??? IS is not an organic phenomenon created by the political illegitimacy of the Sahel states with their people it's going to be done away with via weapons & development

  3. okay why do you think China & Vietnam have done it? to be assholes? to piss you off?

  4. expecting me to take this seriously is interesting. translate this: https://lecontinental.info/alliance-des-etats-du-sahel-aes-une-dynamique-de-refondation-souverainiste-et-securitaire-en-marche/. okay, algeria has literally shot down drones from mali they do not have a good relationship, all AES ambassadors have been withdrawn from algeria lmao. yemen & iran work with china all the time. why would they start acting like western leftists and sabotage their diplomatic ties for fun

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[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

I have a feeling the DPRK is going to be a lesson for all future anti-imperialist projects.

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SirSmoothAES@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago

So much for the struggle against imperialism

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Massive Troaré L. Thomas Sankara must be spinning in his grave right now.

perhaps they found a way to use that to generate electricity

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

put another really big critical on the pile

[-] oliveoil@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Civility@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago
[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

booooooooooooooooo

[-] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

oh no baby what is u doin

[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

🚨 BREAKING: David Hundeyin nukes everyone in this thread including me from orbit. Let's all take a lap. Well I did make a Burkina Faso community on here because we hardly talk about it, but it's really hard to get news without stuff like auto translation I just set up a few weeks ago.

[2026-06-30] @DavidHundeyin@twitter.com

3 days after Traoré is all over the news for breaking off diplomatic relations with France, which gets a good reception, some obscure christian zionist Twitter handle puts out a bullshit tweet portraying a routine change of an accredited Israeli ambassador (based in Cote d'Ivoire) as "Traoré developing closer ties with Israel" and you bunch supposedly "anti-imperialist" dumbasses fall for the headfake instantly without making any attempt to even understand what you are looking at.

And this is precisely why I have zero interest in any kind of western leftism. Your racist, 1-dimensional, brainless, uncritical imperial reflexes are stronger than your supposed ideology. Your own governments are all actively helping Israel murder Gazans and massacre Iranian schoolgirls, and you can't do anything about that.

But you can always pass your dumb, reactive judgements on an African who is actually leading a successful anti-imperialist project, without giving him the 30 seconds of grace it would have taken you to Google Burkina Faso's relationship with Israel and realise that there is no Israeli ambassador to Burkina Faso, there has always been an Israeli ambassador to Cote d'Ivoire who is accredited to Burkina Faso and Togo, and it is ordinary diplomatic process for every new ambassador to officially present himself to all 3 heads of state.

You utter bunch of utter idiots who come from countries led by Epstein Islanders with rape convictions cannot Google things before eagerly pouncing on Ibrahim Traoré to wank your outrage rocks off as if he's your problem!

Wait why did I trust that you guys know what's going on. You take the MMT criticisms of China seriously. I haven't grown one bit.

[-] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

[2026-06-30] @MujammaHaraket@twitter.com

On the Context of Burkina Faso President Ibrahim Traoré’s 26 June 2026 reception welcoming H.E. Simon-Clément Seroussi, who holds the title of “Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the State of Israel to Burkina Faso”

The widely circulated photograph evinces a relationship that currently consists of ceremonial meetings and regional ambassadorship roles. “Israel’s” ambassador in question, Seroussi, is a resident ambassador in Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire, and a non-resident ambassador to Burkina Faso, Benin, and Togo. The “Israeli” embassy page confirms Seroussi’s title as ambassador in Côte d’Ivoire; his own public profile says the post also covers Togo, Benin, and Burkina Faso. The 26 June 2026 event was a credential-presentation ceremony for a new ambassador. In December 2023, Traoré also received credentials from “Israel’s” then-new ambassador Rony Yedidia Clein, resident in Abidjan. (Rony Yedidia Clein likewise was ambassador to Côte d’Ivoire and also accredited to Benin, Burkina Faso, and Togo. She presented credentials in Burkina Faso in December 2023, and in Togo in August 2023.)

Diplomatic histories evince that Burkina Faso’s diplomatic relations were inaugurated in 1961 and were severed in October 1973. Under President Aboubacar Sangoulé Lamizana, Burkina Faso, then Upper Volta, broke diplomatic relations with “Israel” following the October Arab-“Israeli” War/“Yom Kippur War.” They were re-established in October 1993 (on the heels of the Oslo Accords’ “Oslo I,” signed that September) by Blaise Compaoré, after the CIA-backed coup against Sankara. Currently, “Israel” has no resident embassy in Burkina Faso. The Israeli ambassador is based in Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire, and concurrently accredited to Burkina Faso, Togo, and Benin. “Israel’s” MFA page confirms Seroussi’s concurrent accreditation. In both Seroussi and Clein’s case, the ambassadors have lived in Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire.

It is worth noting that, in its 9 October 2023 article title “Israel’s ‘Shin Bet’ Diplomacy in West Africa,” the “Africa Intelligence” outlet reported on “Israel’s” West Africa strategy, writing that “The Director General of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ronen Levi aka ‘Maoz’ is turning the institution into a more strategic tool,” seeking to integrate security apparatuses into the Sahel region via such channels. Africa Intelligence reports that Traoré approved Seroussi’s position, warily noting that “Israel” seems to beinstrumentalizing the relationship to facilitate a counterweight to Burkina Faso’s rapprochement with Iran. I have not found evidence that there is reason to think that intelligence-gathering inroads have been made in Burkina Faso.

Re: Palestine, Traoré himself has not made outright public statements that I have found. Ousmane Bougouma—President of the Transitional Legislative Assembly, who has been entrusted to represent Traoré as head of state abroad, including at the November 2024 Arab-Islamic summit in Riyadh—has, however. At the summit in Riyadh, on 11 November 2024, Sidwaya reported him as representing the official Burkina Faso position of “working toward a peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict” (translation mine).

Under Traoré, Burkina Faso’s UN record is generally pro-Palestine when it votes, though it has abstained on some Gaza-related resolutions. It was non-voting on A/RES/ES-10/21, UN Digital Library record 4025240, and A/RES/ES-10/22, record 4029732. It voted yes on Palestine’s UN status resolution A/RES/ES-10/23, record 4046991, and on the ICJ occupation advisory-opinion resolution A/RES/ES-10/24, record 4061432. It also voted yes on the Gaza ceasefire resolution A/RES/ES-10/26, record 4069197, but was non-voting on the UNRWA mandate resolution A/RES/ES-10/25, record 4069198. In 2025, it voted yes on the New York Declaration decision A/DEC/80/506, record 4088074, and on Palestine participation at the eightieth session, A/RES/80/1, record 4088513.

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[-] larrikin99@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

He's working with them hand in glove.

Insert Brian's dumb hat sketch for his dumb gloves

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

BF had a chance to do something funny, but now it's just tragic.

You were supposed to defeat the Sith not join them!

anakin-padme-1 We've resumed diplomatic relationships with the ethnofacist colonizers.

anakin-padme-2 You mean to just take advantage of them and tell them to fuck off right?

anakin-padme-3 well they said something about a Black Male.

anakin-padme-4 They got to you too.

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