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[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 hours ago

I tried watching some yt in librewolf made me do 5 captchas an i had to switch vpn location so fuck google

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 hours ago

I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome.

[-] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Freetube + Invidious

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.

If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

you know who else has documentaries?

PBS.

support your local public broadcasting stations, people.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that).

Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible.

You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot.

And you can support PBS in addition if you want.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

If you're on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It's promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman

[-] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him

Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me).

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.

Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators.

I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners)

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube.

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[-] laundry861@fedinsfw.app 49 points 8 hours ago

None of these are about identifying if you're human, they're about identifying which human you are.

[-] EisFrei@lemmy.world 54 points 9 hours ago

Not to excuse Google's practices, but you can select the eye icon to continue training an AI to detect buses and bikes.

[-] sidebro@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 hours ago

Oh, thanks for letting me know. I missed that one, as it isn't all that clear that's what it does.

[-] feannag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago

I also use an extension called buster that automatically solves the audio accessible captcha challenge.

[-] gressen@lemmy.zip 74 points 10 hours ago

Name the offending website please.

[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 88 points 10 hours ago

Google. It's their recaptcha service doing that. The QR code validation also gets rejected if you're using a privacy oriented mobile OS like Graphene.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 27 points 9 hours ago

At the cost of conditioning people into following orders from random qr codes

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

you mean it was google,com? Or on which website was this recaptcha?

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[-] sidebro@lemmy.zip 10 points 8 hours ago
[-] 9bananas@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

are they fucking serious with this shit?

what the hell...

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Archive.is is a Russian propaganda bot net. Don't use it.

[-] 9bananas@feddit.org 1 points 24 minutes ago

ah, that explains it...i half-remembered that something is off about that site, but couldn't remember what it was...thanks for the heads up!

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 hours ago

It looks like a Cloudflare interstitial. I also don't think sites get to choose which challenge types show up in reCAPTCHA, so this is on Google.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 15 points 9 hours ago

Isn't the site choosing to use recaptcha?

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

The site is using Cloudflare for DDoS protection, and unfortunately Cloudflare is probably the most effective tool for this. It also looks like it might be archive.org in the screenshot, and they've been dealing with a lot of DDoS attacks lately.

I don't think Google advertises "we force you to scan a QR code" as a feature of reCAPTCHA either, so it feels a little weird to me to blame the site for using a DDoS protection tool that in turn uses reCAPTCHA for human verification when Google randomly decides to add a new stupid challenge type.

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 points 5 hours ago

As far as I know, Cloudflare doesn't use reCaptcha. I think they use a version of hCaptcha running on their own workers.

[-] Stopwatch1986@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Doesn't clicking on the headphones switch to an audio test like with regular captcha? That's what I do and it works first time instead of getting an endless number of images when I use VPN. The words you enter don't even have to be 100% correct.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Man i will nope out of this website so quick.

[-] 45o3b@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago

I'll get hate for referencing a solution that involves AI, but this looks promising: https://github.com/Captcha-Sonic/CaptchaSonic-Extension

[-] lemmyman@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Lmao so the captchas don't even do anything anyway. Except harass us.

[-] 9bananas@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

that's been true for years now:

captchas have been a mild inconvenience for bots for like 10 years.

they are, like so many things, pure security theater...not actual security.

[-] AssaultPepper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago
[-] muhyb@programming.dev 10 points 9 hours ago

Eye for an eye

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 hours ago

Recaptcha users will experience some visitor losses.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 hours ago

I dont understand how and why is the phone involved in this check. I assume its a link to a website that authenticates you (probably google), but why not open it in the browser its alread at? Like what recaptcha was already doing for the past decade?

Im so confused

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

A few years ago I was given a technical deep dive into Akamai’s bot detection systems. One area they were quite focused on were bots impersonating mobile devices, and in particular mobile apps. It’s commonplace for attackers to try to mimic the behavior of mobile apps because it often provides more direct access to the data they’re looking for than trying to scrape websites.

To counter this threat Akamai developed a library for their customers to incorporate into their apps. This library collects a bunch of haptic data from the mobile device, such as the tilt sensors, accelerometers, finger taps/swipes on the screen, and other available data. It then encrypts it and sends it along to Akamai along with the data the app sends. Akamai then analyzes that haptic data and uses it as part of their bot detection analysis.

It is VERY difficult for a computer to mimic the truly random way a mobile device moves in space, or the way your fingers tap/swipe on a screen. If you were asked to draw a straight line from the upper left corner to the bottom right corner of your smartphone, not only would it not be perfectly straight but it would be quite fluid in its randomness. Writing a computer program to simulate that would be very tough. You’re far more likely to get lots of short straight lines with jagged angles than something that looks like a human drew it. And computer algorithms can quickly analyze this sort of data and return a confidence score indicating if it appears to have been created artificially or not.

So my guess is that when that QR code is scanned it will launch a Google app that will collect some similar haptic data and send it off to Google along with a unique id for that captcha. Google will then quickly analyze that haptic data to determine if you’re a bot or not.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 hours ago

Ohh, I've never thought about phone authentication being superior due the amount of sensors it has. Thanks for explaining, it makes a lot of sense (and I hate it)

[-] ambitiousslab@feddit.uk 8 points 8 hours ago

I think they can use remote attestation on the mobile device to prove that it's a physical device. They do that through Google Play Services or whatever the equivalent is on iOS. So, for instance, scanning the QR code on a custom ROM like lineage or GrapheneOS doesn't work.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 11 points 7 hours ago

They want to force interaction with your phone so they can identify who you are.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago

Not justifying this by any means but you can just click on the eye icon at the bottom to get the regular captcha.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Vague option is vague.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I see phishing opportunity here. Thanks Google

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