▲ 420 ▼ Scan to Verify You're Human (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by sidebro@lemmy.zip to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 105 comments fedilink hide all child comments No I don't think so
[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 months ago (3 children) I tried watching some yt in librewolf made me do 5 captchas an i had to switch vpn location so fuck google permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago (5 children) I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children) Freetube + Invidious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Depending on your configuration your experience will differ greatly. As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) I use Freetube, what does Invidious do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi. When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API. One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you're on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It's promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Is that only on android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Ya, there's no way Apple would allow it in their app store permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (5 children) Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask. Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators. I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative. And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power. Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up. and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively. Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything. Big porn wins again dammit! permalink fedilink source parent [+] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 months ago (2 children) is a massive ask. No, it's not. It's a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent [–] crater2150@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Use a VPN in Albania. No signin, no ads, its great permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children) it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways. If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* I tried using Konqueror once, but Cloudflare websites (like WineHQ) would verification loop me. Niche browsers are discriminated against permalink fedilink source parent [–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 months ago Doesn't yt-dlp still work? Could go that route, then just delete the video if you don't want it afterwards permalink fedilink source parent
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago (5 children) I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children) Freetube + Invidious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Depending on your configuration your experience will differ greatly. As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) I use Freetube, what does Invidious do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi. When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API. One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you're on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It's promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Is that only on android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Ya, there's no way Apple would allow it in their app store permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (5 children) Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask. Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators. I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative. And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power. Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up. and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively. Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything. Big porn wins again dammit! permalink fedilink source parent [+] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 months ago (2 children) is a massive ask. No, it's not. It's a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent [–] crater2150@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Use a VPN in Albania. No signin, no ads, its great permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children) it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways. If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children) Freetube + Invidious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Depending on your configuration your experience will differ greatly. As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) I use Freetube, what does Invidious do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi. When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API. One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Depending on your configuration your experience will differ greatly. As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) Depending on your configuration your experience will differ greatly. As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Do you have any instances you can suggest? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations. If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) I use Freetube, what does Invidious do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi. When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API. One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi. When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API. One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you're on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It's promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Is that only on android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Ya, there's no way Apple would allow it in their app store permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago I keep both newpipe and grayjay on my devices for when the other breaks Tend to favor grayjay though because for whatever reason it usually works better for me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Is that only on android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Ya, there's no way Apple would allow it in their app store permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Ya, there's no way Apple would allow it in their app store permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (5 children) Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask. Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators. I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative. And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power. Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up. and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively. Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything. Big porn wins again dammit! permalink fedilink source parent [+] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 months ago (2 children) is a massive ask. No, it's not. It's a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent [–] crater2150@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative. And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power. Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up. and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative. And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power. Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up. and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Oh yeah, definitely. Spending 30 minutes to download a video over a torrent before you can watch it is tooooootally similar to youtube. Practically indistinguishable! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively. Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything. Big porn wins again dammit! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 months ago (2 children) is a massive ask. No, it's not. It's a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent [–] crater2150@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crater2150@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Use a VPN in Albania. No signin, no ads, its great permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children) it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways. If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children) it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways. If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that). Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible. You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot. And you can support PBS in addition if you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago you know who else has documentaries? PBS. support your local public broadcasting stations, people. And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube. I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad. Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother. And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What I like about the algorithm is that it suggest you related content (usually). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Yes somewhat related, but the algorithm is not trying to help you find related or interesting things. It is trying to find ways to keep you engaged. That is a very different thing. It will slowly try to direct you to outrage, polarization, addiction loops, sensationalism and clickbaity videos. It amplifys misinformation because either people fall into believing it OR are so outraged by it they want to comment or rage at it. Youtube has an incentive to do these things: more watch time = more ads served = more revenue. So people will tell you: just curate what you watch! That fixes it! If you are going to curate what you watch, you don't need an algorithm! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amdouni@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Didn't think about and I guess it's kind of true, happens all the time where I get suggestions that are very bias. But the algorithm has also helped me find good creators, those who's main goal is not to become milliners and good music too. I do spent a lot of time watching YouTube so the engagement thing works, but I don't watch adds so jokes on YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* I tried using Konqueror once, but Cloudflare websites (like WineHQ) would verification loop me. Niche browsers are discriminated against permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 months ago Doesn't yt-dlp still work? Could go that route, then just delete the video if you don't want it afterwards permalink fedilink source parent