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[–] 64 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm far too tired to read the article, but Christians disliking other Christians and thinking that other Christians aren't real Christians is totally on point.

Naively I think this fits, but just based on the title.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    We have hundreds of years of religious wars in Europe that proves it's an old Christian tradition.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Almost as if the Founders who wrote the 1st amendment could see this coming.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah. It was a general lie that the founding fathers weren't faithful Christians. Outside of autistic Thomas Jefferson, they still seemed to have some form of Christian beliefs. The issue was that each state had its own form Christianity, including state churches, and realized that the federal entity could not be religious as it could cause a major schism in the new Republic.

    Also, the Bill of Rights was written with the intent to only bind the Federal Government. It was absolutely intended that individual states could regulate religion and that choice was to be made at the state level.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    And they think they'll all get along once they get rid of all the blacks and gays? Nope, they move on to the next other and repeat.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    In this is why „the left are only fighting each other, the right’s a unified front“ is just demoralising bullshit.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The significant difference is that the right still vote for the right.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    No it just shows their morals aren't even foundational. They would vote Democrat if they thought it would gave them power of others.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    On the contrary, their morals are very foundational; and they’d often rather die than deviate from them. It’s just that they know their actual morals are reprehensible, so they claim different morals as the winds blow to hide the truth.

    Which is, simply, to have an in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group the law binds but does not protect, and then to plop themselves firmly in the first group and as many people as they can get away with in the second.

    They’re fine having some people in the in-group with them, as long as those people think, look, and act like they do; anyone else is a dangerous ‘other’ that must be dumped into the second group immediately.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Without even reading the article, I — and untold large numbers of far more scholarly types — could have told you that. Who among those not under the mass delusionment spell doesn't know this?

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    many speakers are anti-Mormon

    this here is coded language. for one, it shows you that the author is mormon (no one else uses the term anti-mormon)

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

    Ex-Mormon here. I'd like to point out that the author used the incorrect full name of the aforementioned cult in the article. My likeliest guess is that they're someone who was never Mormon and has had little to no contact with a practicing Mormon in their life. So, in the interest of fair journalism, they looked for a cursory glance at Mormonism's usual critics and the church's rebuttal to those critics. They may have used the label 'anti-Mormon' with the same casualness that someone would use 'pro-life' in an article.

    Looking at the author's profile and other articles on Salon, it seems like this guess holds the most weight.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You think a liberal feminist journalist who attended a Catholic university in Austin is a Mormon?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't a Mormon say that the speakers are anti LDS, since they consider 'Mormon' to border on a slur?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's MY cult, not your cult that's good. Only MY cult should be recognized.

    I love this Christian infighting.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    On the contrary, many speakers are anti-Mormon, including Trump ally and Southern Baptist megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, who has repeatedly called the Latter Day Saints a “cult.”

    Not wrong, but utterly rich coming from the cult of inbreeding.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Ew that AI generated headline made me throw up in my mouth a bit

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    No one should be surprised that as these people seize power, which is what they are doing, the party, not the dumbass president and his goons alone, this doesn't end with him, that they kick people out of the in group as they don't need them.

    That is fascist 101. These fucking dumbshits trust the ones that will kick them out to tell them what to do.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I strongly encourage nasty in-fighting among Christian cults.

    "Hey Mormons, you gonna let those Protestants and Catholics get away with saying you're not real Christians? I wouldn't, but I'm not a little bitch."

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Immoral and incoherent are both trademarks of MAGAts

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Utah exists for a reason. The Christian death cult and all its fucked-ed up spin-offs have always been like this.

    *Grammar edit

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Since when did they care about coherence? what a nothingburger

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Catholics and evangelicals have always hated Mormons. To them being a Mormon is one step up from being a Hindu or Muslim. Some of these people literally think Mormons are Satanists in disguise.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Trump and MAGA: build concentration camps, detain and murder US citizens, bomb children

    Liberals: But it's incoherent!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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    Yes, you're right, but the questions is who cares if it's coherent or not? Imagine complaining that Fascist not only murdered millions of people but their ideology was also incoherent. Missing the forest for the trees?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I care. Because every day I wake up to more of this fucking nightmare and all I can hope for is that some of the gaping chasms 'we' see everyday becomes visible as cracks to the slavering base and peel off a few more. If one person sees the inconsistency and abstains or goes for 3rd party then I think the few seconds of time posting was worth it.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I think hoping that arguments about incoherent ideologies will sway voters is exactly why democrats keep losing.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    That is a pretty weird take to me. Especially with all of the other, much more visible, reasons democrats keep losing. But I'm not here to change your mind. Nor do I think there is a ton of hope in changing hearts and minds when both of the organs are rotten to the core by 70 years of rightwing fuckery in schools, media, and public discourse. But hoping when hope is mostly gone is kind of my thing.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago

    The other reasons are just more symptoms of the same thing: being out of touch with the people. Party leaders keep talking about how MAGA are hypocrites or how right wing legal theories are flawed like it's going to convince anyone to stop voting for Trump. It won't.

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