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teleporter (thelemmy.club)
submitted 21 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) by gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world
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[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Would be a cool way to discourage fast travel.

[-] DankDingleberry@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

"the prestige: intensifies

[-] nathanjent@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago

My theory is that the being who created the totems is borrowing the power of each soul's death and using that to recreate their body on the other side. There must be some minor difference in power that this being collects for itself. Even a small difference would be worth it at scale.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago
[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago

what is this prestige that everyone keeps talking about?

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The Prestige is a movie where Wolverine and Batman fight in a battle of who is the best magician. David Bowie makes a teleportation machine for Logan to teleport across the entire theater to the shock of the audience.

Tap for spoilerBut we learn that the machine is not a teleporter, but a distance copier--the original Logan still remains on the pad while his copy stands across the expanse, beaming triumphantly down on the amazed audience. Logan rigs a trap door for his original self to fall through and drown every night, and every night, he never knows if he will be the one to die or the one to live.

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

Reading this was better than the actual movie.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

But the movie also has Alfred!

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Watch it without spoilers right now, the one with Bowie

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

Atomic teleportation where a pattern or parts are converted or reassembled = death

Quantum teleportation where particles exist in multiple locations states before collapsing into oneโ€ฆ not so sure.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

People are too dumb to get this reference.

Guess you could say it screws with them.

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago
[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago
[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

Explicitly don't work like that, the Transporter Problem Thought Experiment was "what if they worked like that"

But in Star Trek it's a streaming connection, kept in the Transporter Buffer

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 hours ago
[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

More like brainuppercut. Goddamn. Thankyou.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago

my personal opinion is that instant (i.e. arbitrarily close to speed of light) teleportation machines could be built in theory, but doing so is really expensive and there's just no economical reason to do so.

for example, for fast travel, we already have aircraft and rockets. Yet nobody would use them to ship objects produced in china to europe, e.g. cars, if there's no time-critical component (i.e. food that spoils very quickly etc.). So the fastest way of travel is typically also the most expensive one, while cheaper modes of transport take more time.

Then, you can think of a teleportation device as a mode of transport where the speed approaches the speed of light. If our previous experience is anything to go by, that means that the cost of transport would increase enormously, and thus practically nobody would use it anyways. So that's the practical side to this thing.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 46 points 20 hours ago

That is one theory of how teleportation will work. Otherwise, you have a replication machine.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Star Trek has multiple stories about people being accidentally cloned by the transporter.

Which implies it is creating a copy.

Which implies it is destroying the original.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

In the TNG episode Lonely Among Us, while under the influence of an alien entity, Picard disintegrates himself into a nebula. The crew spend hours trying to get him back and are about to give up, when Troi senses Picard's disembodied presence nearby, and they are able to reconstitute his body from the transporter buffer, reuniting it with his mental energy.

So Star Trek has effectively confirmed the scientific existence of the soul, and the fact that it exists independently of the body, and that the soul can continue to exist without the body, and that the transporter can transport the soul without destroying it. So, no, the transporter is not a suicide machine.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

TL;DR, they cheat by having magic Philantery's in StarCraft, however...

...this means all the clone bodies are the real him, and share a soul, and feel everything at the same time?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 hours ago

has effectively confirmed the scientific existence of the soul

Not at all, it's fiction.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

Yes, they confirmed the objective existence of the soul within the context of their fictional universe, alongside faster than light travel, time travel, accessible parallel universes, stable wormholes, hand-held weapons that can vaporize a human being, and artificial general intelligence.

On the scale of science fiction hardness, Star Trek is somewhere between warm jello and cotton candy.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ah, in-universe.

hand-held weapons that can vaporize a human being

About that, the US military did experiments with powerful lasers in 2000. The result:

  • first few milliseconds create a superficial wound
    • spark of hurt paralyzes the target
  • vaporized mass creates a charged plasma, that shields against further shots
  • longer pulsing frequencies literally eat through the target (ablative)
    • explosive pulses (more powaar) are less effective

~~This one i think?~~

Woah, a epstein hijack on Archive? And no pdf upload...

[-] dion_starfire@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Ironically, Star Trek is considered "hard sci-fi", even if there are other shows/books that are harder. The hardness of science fiction isn't related to how plausible the science backing it is, but how much effort the story puts into explaining the "science", and how internally consistent that explanation is. Trek spends a fair amount of effort into technobabble, and had dedicated technobabble writers whose job was to try to maintain consistency with those explanations.

Compare this with something like Star Wars (the movies, not third party novels), where nearly zero effort is put into explaining how magical Force powers work or why laser swords have a fixed length.

Hard sci-fi says "this is how this works", even if it's complete bullshit. Soft sci-fi says "just accept that these things work, so we can use them as plot devices".

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/MediaNotes/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness

On a 1 - 6 scale, Star Trek scores 2, squishy soft.

Hard sci-fi says "this is how this works", even if it's complete bullshit.

First time ever hearing that explanation, doubt many people share that view.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 10 hours ago

scientifictionic*

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Star Trek transporters imply a lot of stuff, many of them contradictory.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Ah, and also one where it got wrong.

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 32 points 21 hours ago
[-] scholar@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

In fairness to Mr Tesla, his machine didn't kill. It made a perfect living duplicate. (The magician on the other hand...)

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

bro could have stopped at one copy and taken turns bowing like his nemisis did, but chose to die instead

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 13 points 18 hours ago
[-] abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub 20 points 14 hours ago

That's a problem with infosec.pub instance, not with the post.

[-] Magnum@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago
[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago

Try this:

[Repost of the comic from OP]

(I just opened the image in a separate browser)

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 6 points 21 hours ago

bad taste in decoration, i guess. lmao

this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2026
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