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[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think they should rather protest in front of their embassy to stop the war in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

The Finnish group that supports democracy in Russia is planning such a protest. Which is good. But too little too late.

Although the fact that in this protest they used flags of the Russian president tells you who is actually behind it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dual-national Helsinki resident, Vera Ponamoreva said she was worried she wouldn't be able to care for her elderly parents living in Saint Petersburg.

What a heartbreaking story...I wonder if this is a real situation or just told for its effect, because If I would really care for my elderly parents on a usual basis I would move myself or them somewhere closer so it would not require a nearly 5 hour ride by car to 'care for them'.

Go protest at the Russian embassy, their country fucked up big time, not Finland!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Finland isn't the one that invaded Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

This is just a different version of the same story we’ve been hearing for years: ordinary people are paying the price for Putin’s aggression.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Sucks to suck, and Russia sucks hard. If you don't like it I'm sure there are ways you could go back to Russia. They're always looking for more canon fodder.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

We all know how Russian community in Ukraine felt when some Russian soldiers came to their town on “vacation”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Finland's russian community need to have a good think about what happened to Ukraine's russian community. Then either shut up or fuck off back to russia. I'm sure Finland would be happy to pay for a one-way ticket to the russian shithole of their choice and three months' rent to get them started, given the alternative cost of putin deciding the Finnish russians need "liberating" from "nazis".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That's how you know it's an effective action!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Several hundred protesters, including Russians living in Finland and dual-nationals, chanted "open the borders" at a demonstration outside the parliament in Helsinki on Saturday after some crossing checkpoints with Russia were closed on Friday midnight.

Dual-national Helsinki resident, Vera Ponamoreva said she was worried she wouldn't be able to care for her elderly parents living in Saint Petersburg.

Another dual-national, Pavel Myakinen said he was concerned that his mother wouldn't be able to visit him, as driving through open crossing points in Finland's north will make for a long and expensive journey.

He added that there were small groups of migrants on the Russian side, but they were not admitted as the border crossing points were closed.

The Finland-Russia land border that serves as the European Union’s external frontier runs 1,340 kilometres, mostly through thick forests in the south, to the rugged landscape in the Arctic north.

Helsinki accuses Moscow of ''funneling'' migrants to its crossings, in response to the country's strengthening defence ties with the United States.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It can't be a great position that nation is in. I imagine they are torn between wanting to help and fear of what might happen. Whatever they ultimately settle on I hope it offers them security and offers humanitarian aid.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The comments here are disgusting, is it so hard to distinguish between the people and the government? Especially if we are talking about an autocracy and the people who have fled or are trying to flee.

Even if you are a russophobe you should support them, making it easy for russia to keep its internal victims is only good for russia, and it is especially bad for ukraine when it involves male victims of forced conscription.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's hard to distinguish the people and the government, when the people are protesting about what a democratic country did to protect it's citizens against an autocratic warmongering state, it's aggression and subversion stategies.

In other words, they should do a protest like that in Moscow, see what happens.

It's not russophobia. Nobody sane is afraid of russia anymore. But hostile actions must meet reactions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know that there were protests in Moscow that got decimated by police with harsh jail sentences for the people involved, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

It's almost like that's my point. They're protesting that Finland reacts to hybrid warfare by Russia... by protesting in front of the Finnish parliament.

Of course they wouldn't do that in Moscow to stop the reason for the closure because they'd be clobbered into the pavement.