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Are people giving up waiting for Cloudflare to work considered as bots because they didn't finish the challenge?
It's important to note that Cloudflare offers paid bot-blocking services.
I don't doubt that a large amount of internet traffic is bot traffic, but CF's CEO is not telling us this because they're disappointed and outraged and want a change, they telling us this because they want to sell CDN + visitor filtering subscriptions.
Beehaw deems my strong opinions on the subject too haphazardly dangerous to the neoliberal conformity well being of its community.
People seem to forget that, 15-20 years ago, 95% of email was spam. It's gone down since then, but only because email isn't that important of a communication platform nowadays.
Bad actors attack with the tools they've got. If it's not protected, it's exploitable until it is.
lol, when you change the graph filter from HTML to JSON, it's 60% human.
- HTML - 40% humans
- JSON - 60% humans
I’m constantly getting bot checked these days because I do a lot of stuff when casually browsing to prevent being fingerprinted and tracked between sites. I wonder how often they just mark anyone not making them selves easy to identify as a bot.
I can't buy flights with SAS anymore because they flag me as a bot. Tried contacting customer support about it, which was a bot
AI customer service bots, which I know are soulless firewalls really more than helpers, are beyond frustrating.
There are probably not many of us though.
I wonder how Cloudflare estimates the increased rate of false positives they're getting after they made their bot detector even more oversensitive in recent weeks. It no longer likes my default javascript-enabled browser profile and I don't always bother to load another one when I get cloudflared, so >50% of visits from me are "bots".
Doesn't CloudFlare also have a vested interest in saying bot traffic has overtaken humans to encourage website owners to their services?
I wonder how much of it is people who just block cloudflare or don't use JavaScript.
Bots are, essentially, a virus. We are at the point now where they are killing the host. That is if they haven't already moved us to the point of no return.
A new internet isn't going to happen. We are stuck with the anonymous rage inducing or monetization system that took over because the systems of power let it.
I2P. Not perfect, but a good place to start.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I2P doesn't seem to fill the void. I think what is missing from that is the "norm" of the old internet. The internet was a playground with tons of hobby projects and experiments in its earlier days. I don't see TOR, I2P, etc, building the same playground because the novelty and ease of access can't be replicated.
It can be its own thing, and help alleviate the pressure of the contemporary internet, and that's fine. But it won't be what fixes the issue of dead internet or commercialization, or whatever we want to call it. That'll take systemic change.
Another community that has sprung up recently is Reticulum. Some of the relay chats rooms, websites and forums on there feel like the early internet and the emphasis on direct communication over radios could prevent bots. But it's definitely not ready as an internet replacement. Maybe in a few years...
Internet of Shit
Dead Internet Fact
Bots are humans, at least in the sense that bots are initiated by humans.
So when a human's tools misbehave, the human should be held accountable (except that's not feasible).
Seen in this light, the entire internet is literally now under attack.
Bots are not humans, but their creators should still be held accountable.
The question is if Iran's massive percent of Bots is because it has a lot of bots, perhaps as a Proxy for China, or if its humans just largely lack internet access.
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2026
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