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I'm attempting to get away from paying the rental fee on my router without breaking the bank. What are your suggestions on a decent router/modem combo for a DSL setup. I tried to get help at best buy, drove an hour to the store and explained the situation and got a blank stare from the associate who then pointed out a Netgear product that "works for everyone and is on sale". I get home and realize the combo unit I was sold does not support DSL.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does your isp support 3rd party modems?

I would assume so if you are asking.

Are you fine with having 2 devices in the area where this dsl modem needs to be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They do support 3rd party products. We do currently have an all in one unit. They said I would be fine as long as it meets the following criteria.

BONDED SERVICE DSL 1 PORT MACH SPEED OR WRAP MEET ADSL2+ G.992.5 VDSL2 BONDING AND G VECTOR.

At this point, I'll take whatever is going to work, whether it is separate units or a combo. When I do move, it will end up being within the same service limits, and they are the only ones offered out here in semi rural Wisconsin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my quick searches. I've come up with this.

https://www.zyxelguard.com/VMG4005-B50B.asp

This will need a separate router. Essentially any wifi ac router will work as vdsl tops out at like 300mbps with 35b

You may just be able to buy your exact model of modem off of ebay to be honest as well.

It is hard to recommend something without knowing what exact vdsl profiles they use

1 port mach speed and warp meet sound like marketing terms and not a actual spec.

I do see some devices marketed with g vector but thst also sounds like a marketing term for vectoring.

Sorry for not being able to provide a clear answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I've seen g vector referd to this itu.

https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.993.5

So if a modem supports that it should be gvector compatible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

so does your ISP router have a built in modem? Because most consumer routers are just Ethernet, and you would need a separate modem to convert from DSL to Ethernet for the router to be able to handle it. I personally have no experience with DSL so I can't offer any advice on what to get.

it's important to know the differences between a modem, a router, and a switch as many device have multiple in one

A modem convers an analog signal like a telephone line in dsl's case to a digital medium like Ethernet

a router acts as a manager for a subnetwork (your lan) to bridge and firewall to the rest of the internet

A switch allows multiple devices to communicate with each other

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If you have a combo box you'll have a harder time. There's very few available for that. Need to find out what modem is needed and set that up. Then use any router you want. Or find out which 3rd party combo boxes are compatible