submitted 2 months ago by 7bicycles@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

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If the reddit comments are to be believed: straight from the parking lot into the drink

I was sober except for the part where I maybe wasn't except in a legal sense and then on top of that suffered a bunch of other ailments that made me drive into a pond, over a curb and some other shit

On good will I hand it to this person that this sounds american-with-no-alternatives as fuck and they didn't frame it as a sort of passive "I got into an accident" but like still

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[-] buttwater@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Dashcam footage

[-] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

gotta love how it isn't on the dash

[-] microfiche@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Assuming the prior intoxication wasn't contributing, if you know you suffer ailments that could impair your successful operation of a multi-thousand pound object capable of subsonic speeds, maybe don't drive in the fucking rain and compound it.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

capable of subsonic speeds

Aren't all objects capable of subsonic speeds?

[-] naom3@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Not photons doggirl-smart

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

C could be less than undefined

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't that depend on the medium they travel through?

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

https://www.nature.com/articles/17561

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

How many workplaces let you call in sick because it's raining?

[-] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

You could call in sick because of Lyme disease I bet

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

I had a coworker who got Lyme real bad

Still had to pull a open-close double whammy shift with me

That was a rough day

[-] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Making someone do that is practically a human rights violation sheesh

[-] microfiche@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

are you really trying to justify this? lol.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

unfamiliar area disqualifies it from that consideration but a whole lot of people driving when they shouldn't is because they'll die of homelessness if they lose their job.

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah without caring if they kill someone else in the process which is the issue

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Are you really trying to dismiss societal factors out of hand and push a "personal responsibility" narrative? lol

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Rain is an external factor, Lyme and blood sugar drops are societal by way of healthcare, but being just below 0.08 when the cops arrive at the scene and breathalyze you is one's own doing.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Wait the legal BAC in America is 0.08??? In China it's 0.02. And I thought Australia was high with 0.05

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yea

England and the US are 0.08, which seems to have influenced much of the world. No one really has any limit higher than 0.08. Most of Western Europe (EU15 ish) is 0.05.

What's probably an equally big risk is distracted driving and tired driving, but tired driving is very hard to quantify. If we didn't require cars so much, it wouldn't really matter because you could walk or ride a bike home (I have done this many times when drunk or high, without any problem). As an American, I feel like it's easier to phase out cars than it is to stop drunk driving.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Fuckin' England.

Looked it up

Vietnam: 0.00

China: 0.02.

Taiwan province, South Korea and Japan: 0.03

Hong Kong: 0.05.

Singapore: 0.08

The more influenced by England, the more the country tolerates driving while drunk. Look:

Republic of Ireland and Scotland: 0.05

England and Wales: 0.08

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

...Okay yeah I somehow missed that part, fair point

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

But how else are you going to get $1 margaritas at Applebees?

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna be honest if that top reddit post holds true neither being familiar or it being sunny would've saved that one

[-] microfiche@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

ah lol.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I mean, I really blame American capitalism. Yes, this person made a morally objectionable decision by driving with Lyme disease and still tipsy from the previous night. But American jobs won't let you call in sick unless you're dying. And America has no public transit, so cars it is.zz

I think that's another reason COVID got so bad in America, think of all the people who got called into work even though they had COVID. I remember one time I called into work for a week for COVID and my chef was still trying to get me to come in.

[-] Esoteir@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

dubois-dance leo-point

disco elysium reference

[-] RION@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

evil denzel washington in Flight:

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

People understand it for themselves in relative terms.

I bumped into my deadbeat alcoholic former roommate a few days ago. He was stumbling down the sidewalk of a busier street, with his phone flashlight lighting up the way, hampered for several seconds by every curb, sipping on a pint of rail vodka as he went to the bar.

He announced "I'm not drunk" to me, because "drunk" to him is blacked out and slumped in a random location.

[-] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

dubois-finger-guns

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Yeah they were drunk.

People are claiming their post history shows alcoholism but it's deleted now. Even without that being able to mount the curb with two sets of wheels and not stop isnt a sign of unimpaired driving. I don't even have a licence and I can recognise what it feels like to mount a curb in a car.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

"just hungover" is when you're achingly sober 0.0 bac the morning after.

blowing "below the LEGAL LIMIT" is called "still drunk from the night before" and it's a DUI. when you blow above the legal limit it's DWI.

at least nobody died.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Still drunk from the night before is how I used to work the Sunday brunch/lunch shifts for the white people who just finished church. Razor sharp knives and open flames? Yeah, no problem. Operating heavy machinery? Absolutely the fuck not.

Though, to be fair, I never owned a car and have never held a license, so I wouldn't be driving whether I'm completely sober, DUI or DWI.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

My "I was sober" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I really don’t miss drinking. I remember having to spend two days sobering up and going through hell just to dry myself out to drive so I could get more booze

let’s just say I’m doubting the narrative here, as a person with some experience

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

You would wait to sober up? You're a better alcoholic than me. I thank my higher power every day that when my alcoholism got REALLY bad, I didn't have a car anymore. Me driving drunk so often was probably the worst thing I did in my addiction. At least at that point, it was just beer, but then again that's an addict excuse. After I couldn't drive anymore, I switched to vodka because it's much cheaper and I knew I could drink as much as I wanted without putting other people in danger.

Thankful to be sober and not driving anymore.