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submitted 1 day ago by kiol@discuss.online to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I have been setting up Zram, Swap, Swappiness and EasyOOM daemon on 16gb ram boxes, or lower. Someone asked me about 32gb of ram, or more, and I'm unsure. Wondering if others have experimented with this!

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

i don't see a lot of swap use on my systems, but i do have zswap backed by a swap partition on a couple of them; otherwise i generally i just use a basic swap partition on most everything.

basic systems (browser, email, light docs/media use) i set up for others that are using ext4 might use a swapfile instead if it was the default for whatever distribution i used for it.

[-] mactan@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

been testing this quite a lot for star citizen which regularly sees 20-40 GB use. zram is the easiest solution to avoiding OOM Killer by a long shot. zswap was swapping over 100 GB to disk cumulative throughout the day and still oom killing the game. zswap is also a pain in the ass to configure for the lay user and harder to get human readable stats. I don't want lay users going anywhere near their bootloader but zswap is all kernel command line to make permanent changes

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 22 points 1 day ago
[-] kiol@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago
[-] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

zram makes sense if you do not have swap.

zswap is probably enabled by default in most distros. It compresses cold pages on the fly so that they're ready to quickly get swapped in and out.

I do hit the swap partition occasionally on my 32GB systems.

It doesn't really kick in until you have proper pressure. I want my swap partition for hibernation, anyway.

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Genuinely curious: what are you doing to be needing this?

I cannot think of any modern usecase for swap a part from hybernation

[-] amorangi@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago

Local AI can chew it up. Wasn't able to run certain jobs on 64Gb until I switched to zswap.

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

What kind of token per second are you getting with your model partially on disk?

[-] kiol@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

I've been using lower ram machines lately, so made me curious about if people are using things like zram with 32gb+

[-] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Compiling Librewollf with a sufficient number of jobs is a great way to eat up 32GB of RAM, and the some.

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Swapping will make it slower not faster, reduce jobs?

[-] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

No. Most of the build jobs are fast and small. A couple take up gigabytes at a time. Swap is on SSD anyway. Its fast enough.

I also use NixOS and GuixSD. There are cases where binary caches haven't caught up with the package definition. Situations like Librewolf, LibreOffice and kernel all compiling at the same time.

Sure I could mess around with limiting jobs and build runners... Or I could just have swap, and never worry about it again.

Just a BTRFS swapfile. I'm not worried too much about performance. I rarely hit it and most of the time i don't even need it. Until I do.

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My workstation has 48 GB RAM with 50% allocation allowed to zram, no disk swapping. It works just fine. Once I use up the majority of my RAM, it kicks in the same way it would on any other system with less RAM.

[-] SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Shouldn't total ram amount always be powers of 2 (forgot the reason exactly) ? It sounds like 32 +16 wouldn't be ideal ? I remember that from my early days, but maybe it has changed ?

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

That is correct, IIRC, the mismatch does limit how much of it can run in dual-channel. Even if a single stick is natively 24 or 48 GB, there is additional strain on the memory controller. It is the way it is on my setup since I had planned an upgrade to a full 64 GB and was holding off until a good deal on the remaining 32 GB kit, which will never come unless the AI bubble bursts.

[-] FleetwoodLinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

There are some 24GB sticks around, same with 48GB sticks

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Not according to the chrisdown blog post above.

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

What about it? I see it kicking in at least 10 GB before my RAM is full and I haven't noticed any fundamental differences between how zram works on my 48 GB workstation and my 8 GB devices. Maybe I've never had a workload that filled all 48 GB + extra zram capacity, but it's never given me an issue.

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