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[–] 75 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Regardless if it was staged or not, no one cares that it happened. That's gotta sting the orange one's ego.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Which is point against the conspiracy theorists, since he hasn't gotten any benefit from it.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    His ego and the yes men who surround him probably told him that people would care. That's not really a point to either side.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    There is also the case to be made that they're really incompetent, yes.

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  • [–] 74 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Only a quarter? Or are they parsing their survey to split the "staged" vote from those who think it was "allowed to happen".

    You don't need to hire a gunman. You just need to make an idiot think he has a clear shot. Then let him hit a brick wall.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    If you just catch it from the TT/IG people talking, the conspiracy has some pretty decent legs. Strange responses, no responses. smiles, wasn't supposed to be there, people kept eating, guests stayed at the table, even though this isn't the first time... normally there is pretty strong protocol for the president to enter public they bring their own security and their security isn't run by idiots.

    Truthfully, none of the suspect behavior really shows much more than people not knowing what was going on or the fact that he's been surrounding himself with people who are not as professional security-wise as previous heads.

    Do I think there's no chance it was staged? No. Are there suspect actions by people in the room? Yeah, but nothing that couldn't just be explained by high levels of noise in the room and relatively decent sound deadening.

    It could have been staged; the previous thing could have been staged. He's angering a lot of people, it's not like it should be entirely unexpected.

    The US has a long history of attempts.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago* (10 children)

    Makes sense for people to think that (boy who cried wolf and all that), but it's really not all too questionable that a leader with such a low approval rating on top of being in one of the most pro-gun nations in the world is subject to relatively frequent assassination attempts. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened more.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I think there is way more to it than just that. For example, the strangely lax security, and bizarre comments by insiders beforehand about how "shots will be fired" etc.

    Not saying I believe it, but it's not just boy who cried wolf.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I think it's more appropriate to apply Occam's & Hanlon's razor logic here tbh. I doubt these simpletons would go to such lengths to paint themselves as victims of violence in this case, it's highly probable that they're just too stupid to take the proper precautions as opposed to the whole thing being a malicious attempt at perception manipulation. Plus they oh so love their headline-speak as we all know.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    One of the most pro-gun nations? What other nation takes guns for such a existential part of their identity?

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It sure seems like the kind of thing they would do. The only doubt in my mind is that we’re talking about an administration that is so utterly incompetent that it’s equally likely that there really has just been a few assassination attempts that have gotten through security. Hanlon’s razor and all that…

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    That's surprisingly low. I don't know anyone who DOESN'T think it was staged, even those I talk to that are rightwing.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think that the secret service agent that was shot, got shot by a different government agent that popped off blindly. I also think that about last summer's supposed attempt.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I simply don't care.

    Staged or real makes no difference to me. The fucker isn't dead, and he will use military violence to influence the elections. That was true before this and it is true after this.

    Absolutely nothing changed.

    Wake me up when a bullet goes through his skull.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    That will be a sad day. A relief for sure, but we are overdue justice on this windbag and his cabal of cronies. I want to see them all get their day in court and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    They other 3/4 know it was staged

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    [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can tell it was staged because of how it was

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    The other 3/4 are sad it failed.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Lol, I honestly already forgot about this

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    [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Staged? Nah. Allowed to happen? Most definitely.

    Famously, after a Whitehouse correspondence dinner, Obama left the stage, and went straight into a secured situation room to see the raid on Bin Laden's compound, which in my mind says "there is a secure and spacious building for the President to reside in and perform the necessary administrative and diplomatic duties of the office." Oh yeah, it's the Whitehouse! Why the fuck was the WHCD bring held at some random-ass hotel ballroom?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I’m a quarter of Americans.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    I don't believe the people of this administration are smart enough for that.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Funny thing its, this administration aren't the ones leading though. Its the heritage project and the creaters of project 2025.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Idk about staged as much as allowed to proceed far enough to where it'd make the news.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    A quarter ? Yeah America is fucked

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    And here I am left wondering how it matters

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  • Kind of eh if it were staged, but they more than likely knew about it and let it "happen" for PR purposes.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    A quarter of Americans think

    FTFY

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Think ? Think? Like why even bother use your brain to think, when the answer is clear.

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