Error in the text: 1000mW laser with 532nm wavelength which is green light.

1000nm light is infrared.

Cross posted in https://lemmy.ca/post/64612634

WARNING: Definitely DO NOT point a [1000mW, 532nm laser] at Flock cameras. It totally won't damage the sensor and render the camera ineffective. So please don't consider it, okay?

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[–] 139 points 4 months ago (26 children)

I know that Xwitter is usually a reliable source, but 1000nm is outside visual range and therefore not green. Green lasers in the ~500nm range will absolutely damage a camera sensor, but you'll need good aim and sustained illumination.

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  • [–] 102 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    If you actually want to do this, look at the NUBM44-V2 laser diode. 7 watts of output power and around $30 on eBay. Another $50 or so for a driver, heat sink, and lens and you can burn out cameras in seconds (you can also burn out your eyes so a good set of laser goggles is essential).

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Also make sure your friends have laser goggles, and that nobody is anywhere downrange if you're trying this. It takes way longer to blind a camera with these than it does to blind a human/animal, and it will turn minor vandalism charges into felonious assault.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago*

    They ostensibly meant mW rather than "nm wavelength" based on the image, but they might not be the brightest laser in the activist's pocket.

    Edit:

    Jason Bassler is co-founder of The Free Thought Project and has been featured in such publications as Rolling Stone, Reason, Infowars, RT, MIC and The Tom Woods Show.

    Checks out.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    535nm for most/all of my greens.

    I do have one of the old 1000mw Wicked Laser blues as well, however, which I think is 445nm.

    Oh yeah. And my engraver is 100 watts of infrared (1084nm?), not milliwatts, although the range is probably a bit crap for this sort of thing and it's not exactly concealable. You'd also want to pack rather a long extension cord.

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    [–] 129 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Yall make sure you're not visible on another camera when you try this - it's not like they won't be able to figure out when and where you were when you did it. FLOCKs are usually in high camera-density areas like parking lots and strip malls and such, and there's a lot of pressure to address vandalism against the surveillance apparatus.

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  • [–] 101 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    If you hit an airplane they will try very hard to track you down. If you hit too many cameras they will probably try to find you, too. They will use your purchase history, social media post history, and location, for instance. So, best to buy the laser somewhere far from where you use it, AND pay cash if you can.

    Not that I recommend this, but if you want to try, be smart about it. And, be careful.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    That's the problem with this really. You gotta be really careful you're not caught on camera beforehand, and they have a lot of cameras. So unless you can just walk out of the woods near one and disappear the same way, you're likely gonna have a bad time.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I think its horrible that so many things are happening to us from our own government. They are supposed to be on our side but that was long ago now.

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    [–] 72 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, fuck flock. But really, truly, do not do this.

    I don't give a damn about the Flock cameras. Set them on fire or steal them and sell them for scrap for all I care. But a laser powerful enough to quickly fry a camera sensor is going to be an extreme danger to human eyes. These type of lasers can be acquired fairly easily, but you don't want to be using them in public outdoor spaces. At these power levels, even reflections of laser light can be damaging to human eyes. And when you shine laser light on a solar panel or camera lens, some is going to be scattered in random directions. Sure, you can make sure to wear laser safety goggles while doing this. But random bystanders won't have that luxury.

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    [–] 63 points 4 months ago

    In my town, roads have potholes deep enough to cause damage to cars. Many intersections have been down and operating as 4 way stops for months. But somehow there's money in the budget to do this shit. I think some vandalism might be in order to teach priorities.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    The likelihood that you're going to get caught anyway, this might be a better situation for an "act like you belong" approach.

    Hi-vis vest, hard hat, a ladder, couple safety cones, and some tools. Just waltz right up and run a half-inch drill bit through the lens. Pack up and move on to the next one.

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    [–] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Just smash. Doesn't matter how. Smash smash smash. Or cover with paint or an oily plastic bag. Or just smash. They are always like 8 feet up. Smash.

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    [–] 23 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    It would be interesting to train an image recognition algorithm on detecting flock cameras, build a raspberry pi with two servos and put it all in a nice box to carry around. For research purposes of course.

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    [–] 15 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    I mean the whole point of flock is that they can track you everywhere. Destroying their cameras doesn't destroy the footage.

    If you destroy their cameras they will just trace your movements backwards until they find a way to identify you.

    You need to find a way to do it surreptitiously so it's not clear who is doing it, and they won't be able to figure it out by process of elimination by seeing who is commonly present when a camera iss destroyed.

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    If this were really true, there would be no crime right now. Nancy Guthrie has been missing for months now despite the perpetrator being caught on camera in an affluent neighborhood where there would be many Ring, Flock etc. cameras. These companies overpromise and underdeliver as they all do. Their main purpose is get people to pay them. They are much less competent than they claim to be.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    The easiest way to best an opponent is to always assume they have the upper hand. If flock cameras are half as good as they say they are then approaching it as if it were twice as good means it will be good enough to match.

    Being over prepared will never cost you as much as being under prepared.

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    [–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I want to be able to avoid these. Is this one that I should not use?

    https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808801522780.html

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    [–] 11 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    or you can saw of the pole its attached to, like they did elsewhere, or throw objects at it to break it.

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    [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    i'm all for guerilla destruction of flock cameras

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Any body has a link to which lasers to avoid just so I don't even come close?

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