PBS. Even YT revenue is revenue. : science

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 weeks ago

What about PBS SpaceTime?

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 10 points 3 weeks ago

That one didn’t come up in the search. I’ll add it.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Storied and Be Smart are PBS channels as well.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Be Smart is great.

[-] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s so good, even if you know very little about the field watching it over time you get context and learn who did and said what and they do such a good job at explaining. It feels educational and entertaining

[-] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

One of my favorites

[-] Bieren@lemmy.today 29 points 3 weeks ago

I would watch their YT more if they posted episodes and not 8 minutes shorts.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They do have it on their website

Edit: they do post full episodes daily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iN9DlyLj-U

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

OK but that is...not YouTube.

To watch aeveral things online requires the pbs passporr subscription. Which I happily pay.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I happily pay too, and they are full episodes on their yt channel as well

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately their website videos don't load.

Maybe some drm thing?

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

They do post full episodes daily though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iN9DlyLj-U

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How does that work? Does YT pay out to creators based on the subscriber count alone? I've only ever heard "like and subscribe to help fund this channel" mentioned when the videos are monetized (e.g ads or sponsors).

Or does PBS monetize their videos and uBlock just shields me from that?

Not that I don't want this to be true since it's an easy way to help fund them, but I am curious how (or if) this works.

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 weeks ago

On monetized accounts (which PBS is) YT pays out creators based on advertising revenue. The way they calculate that is a complex, proprietary algorithm, but essentially it's based on view count and retention, and skip rate. So subscribing and liking doesn't actually directly help to fund the channel, HOWEVER more subs and likes usually translates to your videos getting pushed to more and more people (based on a totally different, complex proprietary algorithm), which usually leads to more views, and therefore more ad revenue.

I'm pretty sure us ad-blocking users are still technically contributing to the ad revenue, but over time it can affect the results that advertisers are seeing, and therefore could effect the amount of money they are willing to spend on advertising in the niche or demographic that your favorite creators fall into.

Does that all make sense?

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

No. But not because you didn’t explain it well. It’s because the way YouTube does things just actually doesn’t make sense.

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

I know :/

[-] tpyo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You explained it just fine with the information available to you. I understood it and I have a hard time understanding the meaning of statements over text

It's not your fault YouTube doesn't share how their algorithms work, so I kinda think the other person was pretty rude in their reply. Could have worded it a lot better

[-] Rod_Orm@piefed.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

More engagement: more changes algorithm push video to recommended fronthome YouTube website

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That gets PBS more exposure, sure, and that's great because they put out quality content, but do they get paid for that? I'm genuinely curious here as I know little of how YT pays content creators. I've had a recurring monthly donation going for years now, and I just don't yet understand if/how simply subscribing could replace even a portion of that.

[-] Rod_Orm@piefed.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ads obviously, and people that pay YouTube premium also contributed to monetization but idk how much

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

as I understand, premium accounts are paid out per-user proportional to which channels they spend the most time watching. so if a user spends 30 minutes watching channel A and 1 hour watching channel B, and doesn't watch anything else, then channel A gets 33% of that user's subscription fee (after YouTube takes their cut), and channel B gets 67%

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's the exposure, which leads to more ad revenue (in theory, without adblockers). YouTube creators live or die based on the algorithm and two of the main things the algorithm looks at is frequency of posting and engagement. Since Google needs metrics to give advertisers some idea of revenue potential, someone liking your video isn't nearly as valuable to the algorithm as someone liking, commenting and subscribing (if not already subscribed obvi). As an example, ElectroBOOM just started making shorts of all his old content because he's in the middle of a big house move and doesnt have time to make regular content which he noticed led the algo to stop recommending his content as much. But as far as just making a junk account and liking every video Google has systems in place to ignore "stale" accounts that don't actually watch the videos. Ultimately what they want is viewers since eyeballs equals ads equals revenue and everything else is just a way of predicting future views.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 weeks ago

Each channel needs 1000? subscribers to monetize at all. And then there’s the algorithm. Searches often include items with more not less subscribers, and monetization flows from there.

Your subscribe feeds the channel into the algorithm.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Each channel needs 1000?

500 for first level monetization like members and super chats/thanks/3rd thing

edit: 3rd thing = stickers

[-] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

There's also YouTube Premium which pays creators a cut that's more than they get with the ads. I bet they need to accept ads to get a cut of that.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

You can also make a monthly donation to your local PBS station for access to PBS Passport.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

There are some good pbs passport shows on there too. I particularly like the Ken Burns national parks ones.

Sherlock is also on there too iirc

[-] WagnasT@piefed.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Add PBS Spacetime to your list, it is dope af even if I have no idea wtf they are talking about most of the time.

[-] BLAMM@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They're talking about... spacetime.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Love how he ends his videos like the comedians of the 90s did. The comedians would reference some joke from the first few mins of their set just before they leave stage, he always comes back to the word "SpaceTime".

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

have to be a roman if you want any hope of avoiding slavery

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

I really hope that they use this to post their massive catalog of documentaries

[-] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

NOVA has started uploading some documentaries. I think the best way we can show them that we'd want to see them upload more of their catalog is to leave comments on the videos asking for that---I know that Spacetime, at least, reads every comment left of their videos, so it's a great way to contact the creators.

[-] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Does uBlock allow turning on ads for specific channels? I'd do it for PBS.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

Do you have to watch without ublock for them to earn?

[-] badabim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, if you block ads, then you do not generate revenue for them.

[-] heydo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

There's also Be Smart with Joe Hanson as well.

[+] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -21 points 3 weeks ago

No thanks on the overt state propaganda.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

The present state hates PBS, it's why they defunded it.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Says the state account

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. You’re the state and defund state sponsored media for being state propaganda.

In what reality does that present as logical

More like they were neutral, or tried to be, and were defunded for not becoming state propaganda. No different than NOAA getting defunded to keep people less aware of weather issues as climate change rolls forward.