55
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by General_Effort@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

all 44 comments
sorted by: hot top new old
[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 36 points 2 months ago

i know the author personally. We went to the same university for IT security. His skills are undeniable. Ignoring a legitimately working tool that finds legitimate security problems is just asking for trouble. For all its flaws there are some legitimate uses of LLMs and this is one of them.

maintainers of critical Software can't afford to be that ignorant.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Yes. I hesitated to post this because I understand that many here would prefer not to know. But, at least, people need a chance to learn the facts and make their own decisions. The amount of anti-AI disinformation is crazy.

[-] SilentKnightOwl@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 months ago

I'm anti LLM for a lot of applications, for a lot of reasons, but there are obviously things that it is useful for, and I think this is one of them. If a cybersecurity specialist reviews the flaws flagged by the LLM, confirms they are legitimate, and uses that data to fix them, I don't see an issue.

[-] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

A very useful thing I found is the following: take a couple hours thinking about interesting research ideas. Work out with chatgpt existing solutions and identify key publications. Use Claude code to modify existing software to do something new. In one day of work you got a proof of concept of whether your idea may work. Of course from there on you have to work it out and make it good, but having a confirmation quickly completely changes the fact that you normally have to go through dozens of papers and take several months to review existing publications on the topic.

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

I agree people turn a blind eye to a breakthrough just to be left behind when its used against them. Inform yourself so you can be an informed member of society.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago
[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[-] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why do you think that?
Were you thinking of this instead?

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Why do you think that?

*gestures at OP*

Were you thinking of this instead?

No. Why would I?

[-] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

What makes you think your article makes Anthropic look any less meager or perverse (respectively) in the two articles I provided?

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't actually know what you mean.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

I provided articles that describe it. What specific things do you think are wrong about them?

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I simply don't know what you mean at all.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

What part of the article confused you? It seems pretty clear to me.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

@General_Effort@lemmy.world ?

I hear using AI too much breaks your brain and causes you to shut down when trying to understand things. Did you take a break vom Verteidigen der Spielzeuge deines neuen Führers and come back to the articles I provided to you?

[-] Repelle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

4.6 Opus was a huge jump from earlier models and the first that was actually useful for things like this from my experience (and 4.7 is significantly worse for some reason).

I have made many anti-LLM posts here and I remain pretty negative on them, but they have absolutely become useful. Part of the problem is the truth is really somewhere between the insane promises and the dismissals.

My problems are many fold though, from being propped up by insane subsidies, the massive power usage to the thing I most care about: taking more power from the masses. The more useful they get, the more power gets concentrated to those able to afford the data centers.

Computers used to be at least somewhat democratizing, sure there were some things like weather modeling that an ordinary person couldn’t do, but a random person on thier computer could put something together to change the world.

What happens when the breakthroughs are available only for the wealthiest? Regular folks can buy tokens at a reasonable price today, but running cutting edge models on consumer hardware isn’t really feasible. We’ve ceded too much control.

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

I prefer Gemma 4. Does what I need. Obviously there are quite a few problems. But democratization of technology is starting to catch up.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What democratization? The AI companies you prefer are creating a worse oligarchy in an economic and warmonger sense. This should disturb the people who don't have their heads buried deep in the sand, or in the orifices of Satya Nadella or Dario Amodei.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

taking more power from the masses.

That's promoted by AI haters. The copyright people want to privatize human knowledge and charge rent for it. The latest lawsuit against Meta even includes Elsevier, ffs.

Then there's all the busy-bodies who want everything surveilled "for the children". Cause people might be chatting about self-harm, or generate nudes, or some other "harmful" content.

a random person on thier computer could put something together to change the world.

Yes. For example the random people who founded these AI start-ups.

Right now, the world of technology is uniquely malleable in a way it has not been since the dotcom crash. That's what motivates most of the hate. It's people who feel that they will lose out; eg the news media that already suffers from the rise of the internet.

[-] Nighed@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

It would be interesting to know the token cost for all of this. I think they are getting lots free as advertising for Anthropic, would it be feasible otherwise?

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

They are supporting some projects with free tokens. Their own people are also helping to find and patch bugs. The latter is probably more to help improve the model and harness than PR. I don't think they have to worry about advertising anymore. Mind that there certainly would be a major outcry if something important got hacked with help by their service. They might even have to pay damages. But I wouldn't put it past them that they are being responsible as a matter of principle.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Anthropic's Mythos itself got hacked.

No outcry resulted.

Perhaps AI boosterism is just a farce.

[-] mokey@therock.fraggle-rock.org 2 points 2 months ago

The most fascinating revelation is that there are still a few competent engineers employed by the Mozilla Foundation. I thought they were mainly C-level and PR people at this point, squandering donations as fast as Google would let them.

[-] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 2 months ago

I don't care about your usage of the slopmachine.

As a user of your products, I wish you'd stop. There are scant few browsers for me to leave to.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

That's the spirit!

this post was submitted on 07 May 2026
55 points (80.2% liked)

Technology

86485 readers
3292 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS