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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 151 points 2 weeks ago

He hasn't actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they'll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago

At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don't try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

That might actually be the solution.

I'm pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.

But since the US already has a bunch, I can't see why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have at least one.

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[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah, it's already going to be a worse deal, the Obama deal was great, kind of crazy they got it, actually.

It's just a matter of how BAD the Trump deal will be.

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 91 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but at least we aren't talking about the Trump/Epstein files anymore.

[-] kablez@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

At this point the rest of the world will be invading America just to find out what the fuck is in them already.

Did Trump eat a child's heart Aztec human sacrifice style? What does Putin have on him exactly?

I'm sure I speak for many people when I say I am so tired of my cost of living going up for the Epstein class.

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[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 79 points 2 weeks ago

It won't even be as good of a deal, just any deal. But the important part is that it will be Trump's deal. That's all he cares about. That his name is on it.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 weeks ago

But more importantly, it doesn't have Obama's name on it.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

That part is more important to other Republicans. To Trump it's all about the Trump.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Just like both times he's renegotiated north American free trade agreements, I'm sure this too will last.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Right on the fucking money.

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[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 75 points 2 weeks ago

What about the war crimes and the thousands of Iranians the U.S. is murdering? What about the more than a hundred schoolchildren who were torn to pieces by bombs during a direct U.S. attack on a school? Of course, those aren’t worth mentioning to this guy - only the U.S. "service members" and gas prices matter.

All too typical. This country makes me sick...

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

What about the Roughly 45 million more people could be pushed into acute hunger this year if conflict persists

The impact of this is so much more wide spread than just US Gas prices and the atrocities being committed by the USA and Israel.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It is, but unfortunately a vast majority of Americans don't seem to care unless it affects them directly (at the pump).

And 1/3 will believe any lie told to them.

Honestly having a hard time coping rn

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[-] Rothe@piefed.social 49 points 2 weeks ago

He is not getting anything close to Obama's deal. Also we get to keep the high gas prices.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The end result is to suck more money out of the pockets of ordinary people, into the hoards of the wealthy. That is the point of it all.

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[-] Furbag@pawb.social 32 points 2 weeks ago

At this point, why would Iran give up any nuclear ambitions on a promise from the United States? Our promises are clearly not worth the ink they are written in.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Especially if Israel isn't held to disarm either.

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[-] wildtui@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

But Trump managed to prevent Netanyahu from releasing what’s in the E files about him unredacted - for now anyway

[-] BioDriver@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

No, it’s actually worse than Obama’s deal and yields a lot of concessions and leverage to Iran

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention the fact that this gave Iran the perfect opportunity to test out their theory on whether or not they could control the strait of Hormuz. Until this year it had only been a crackpot idea in their military circles. Now it's official policy for that country.

So, thanks Trump.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also
- less oil is traded in USA dollars,
- the USA national debt reached highs that just beg for a rating downgrade,
- quite a few NATO allies now see buying USA weapons as a liability,
- the stock market atm is just AI (I mean that as a big volatility factor at an inopportune moment),
- China publicly gave 0 fucks about USA's shenanigans & the USA was forced to ignore it,
- and public opinion is now finally switching against USA companies.

Maybe the USA will have a crisis the will be the perfect moment for a coup. By the existing rulers. So not under new management.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm still laughing that I was banned from a community for saying Harris wouldn't have invaded Iran.

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The point was to remove epstein from the headlines and also to steal money with the war spending

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly right!

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my god? 13 dead? AMERICANS??? AMERICANS DEAD???

[-] Soulg@ani.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

You gotta speak the language of the people you're trying to get through to.

Would still be nice to mention the hundreds of children and thousands of innocent Iranians too but it's completely possible the people who need to be convinced this is bad would actually like that

[-] hexdream@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I really don't understand the American number system. How much is that in dead brown school children?

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

It't not even close to Obamas deal. So far it is just a big fuckup, as usual with Trump.

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[-] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago

Somehow it always feels like an ad-campaign for nuclear weapons when countries with some attack countries without any.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago

Funny how that suicide note just happens to surface right along with “operation Epst-ic fury is winding down”.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Right? Dude's been dead for 7 fucking years. Let's see the chain of custody on this note, liars.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

*worse. Worse than Obama's deal.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

Shart of the deal

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.

Also it facilitated Israel's expansion.

And millions in poor nations are affected by high fuel prices directly (transport, cooking, medical facilities, agriculture, etc - in developed nations we just pay more for fuel, but the poor ones just can't afford that, that is the reason why gas prices haven't really exploded, they are "just a bit higher" bcs already at these level 20 or so % can't afford it & the market reaches equilibrium at lower quantify).

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, don't worry, it won't be anywhere near as good as Obama's deal.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

The point is that if Obama did it then racist hates it.

[-] Shindo66@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

And dont forget, we assassinated their leader so he could be replaced with an even more extreme leader who will probably align themselves with china and russia.

[-] fratermus@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

What's the point of it all?

He's obsessed with the delusion that only he can make deals. Only the best deals, the likes of which no one has seen before. Strong deals. 'Uge. Bigly deals.

I am reminded of the quote that "a clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower".

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