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What's the point of it all? (thelemmy.club)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/antitrumpalliance@lemmy.world
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[–] 151 points 4 months ago (11 children)

He hasn't actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It's almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they'll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don't try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    That might actually be the solution.

    I'm pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.

    But since the US already has a bunch, I can't see why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have at least one.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Israel has them too, and I don't really trust them at all. It's crazy to me that Israel gets to demand Iran doesn't get nukes, supposedly because Iran will attack them, yet they invade anyone the can. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's good for Israel to have nukes, it's good for their adversaries.

    My opinion is that no one should have them, but we're far past that point. I don't really know what happens in a world where everyone has nukes, but I can't think of a good argument that these other nations, who invade whoever they want, should be the arbiter of who gets them.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oh yeah, it's already going to be a worse deal, the Obama deal was great, kind of crazy they got it, actually.

    It's just a matter of how BAD the Trump deal will be.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Hundreds of state department employees probably worked for 30 years on sanctions, diplomacy, and building trust to get that agreement. Trump blew it all up (including inflation and the economy) because that's how racist he is. Can't let a black man get a win, under any circumstances.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Also that those brown Iranians are practically cavemen, and will completely surrender at our technological might, as if they've never seen a motorized vehicle before, and they can be manipulated and scammed like the sub-human animals he thinks they are.

    Meanwhile, most of the Iranian government leadership holds PhDs, while Trump holds a press conference to announce he was able to identify four animals, three whole times.

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