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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 151 points 1 week ago

He hasn't actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

It's almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they'll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don't try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That might actually be the solution.

I'm pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.

But since the US already has a bunch, I can't see why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have at least one.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Israel has them too, and I don't really trust them at all. It's crazy to me that Israel gets to demand Iran doesn't get nukes, supposedly because Iran will attack them, yet they invade anyone the can. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's good for Israel to have nukes, it's good for their adversaries.

My opinion is that no one should have them, but we're far past that point. I don't really know what happens in a world where everyone has nukes, but I can't think of a good argument that these other nations, who invade whoever they want, should be the arbiter of who gets them.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Can't put the genie back in the bottle sadly.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Right? Two months ago, closing the Strait was unthinkable, it was a thread that nobody would believe. Now it's any day. Well done.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, it's already going to be a worse deal, the Obama deal was great, kind of crazy they got it, actually.

It's just a matter of how BAD the Trump deal will be.

[-] crpknkr@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Hundreds of state department employees probably worked for 30 years on sanctions, diplomacy, and building trust to get that agreement. Trump blew it all up (including inflation and the economy) because that's how racist he is. Can't let a black man get a win, under any circumstances.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago

Also that those brown Iranians are practically cavemen, and will completely surrender at our technological might, as if they've never seen a motorized vehicle before, and they can be manipulated and scammed like the sub-human animals he thinks they are.

Meanwhile, most of the Iranian government leadership holds PhDs, while Trump holds a press conference to announce he was able to identify four animals, three whole times.

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