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[-] hallettj@leminal.space 20 points 6 days ago

Here's the data presented in the video:

In Delaware in the 30 months following enacting their Idaho Stop law collisions involving cyclists at stop signs fell by 23%, and overall collisions involving cyclists fell by 8%.

There was also discussion of motivation for rolling stop laws in US states. Idaho, which made this change years before any other state, did so to reduce the number of trivial cases using up traffic court resources. Other states were motivated to remove a pretext that police use to stop and detain people, especially people of color.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Colorado has the safety stop. If no one else has right of way, we can pass through stop signs at up to 10-15mph. In practice, visual blocks mean we have to slow down quite a bit, but where there is visibility, there are some 4-ways I can very easily blow through. We can also pass through a red light once we come to a complete stop provided nobody else has the right of way. In practice, very little changed except now I put 100% of my effort into scanning for traffic, rather than 50% watching traffic and 50% scanning for the police. Going through downtown is also faster now that I don't have to dwell at the lights. Overall, this just legitimizes something that happens anyway. Cars roll through stops every day, it would be silly to ticket a cyclist for it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Jesus Christ, build a circle.

Four-way stops are already awful without inventing more rules to juggle.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Never heard of this before despite traveling in Colorado innumerable times, but it makes me like Colorado even more.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

There's a great bike trail between Glenwood and Aspen if you ever make it out that way. Highly recommended.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 8 points 6 days ago

Uh...I mean...a stop for a car is like a yield and pass slowly for a bike...no? :D

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 days ago

This is about the outcome of states that changed the laws to make it to where a cyclist can't be punished or harassed by law enforcement for not coming to a stop at a stop sign if they can safely roll through, while cars still have to stop.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So many towns redefining stops as yields. I hope they invent a yellow light or a yellow sign to replace the red ones, and they can once again match the standard for stop and yield sign colours.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago

Given that a good part of cyclists ignore signs and traffic lights anyway, what's the point?

[-] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Cyclists are just trying to match their motoring brethren who consistently ingone signs, traffic lights, and speed signs anyway

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago

Oh, yes? How many cars have you seen recklessly racing through pedestrian zones? Where do you see more than half the cars ignoring red lights?

[-] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I live in North America, so I see cars ignoring speed limits on literally every road.

I see cars ignoring red lights when they turn right on red without ensuring there are no pedestrians in the crossing. I also see cars beginning crossing the intersection while the light is already red (in my own town this is such a problem, its common practice to wait a couple seconds after the light turns green to go).

I see cars consistently treating stop signs as yield.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That is seriously bad. And your cops are probably busy doing American Cops things instead of making sure the city is safe and sound.

[-] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Canadian cop things. Not quite as bad as the Yanks, but still not great.

[-] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 days ago

You don't need to pass a test or read the road law books to buy a bicycle. It's not a motor vehicle. Therefore it is not bound by motor law.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago

Why do you think this is true? Where do you think this is true?

[-] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Why? Common sense. On flat land, in a town, speed of: Person ~<4mph. Bicycle ~<14mph. Motor vehicles ~30mph+. Bicycles sharing lanes with cars is stupid and causes dissent and death. Bicycles sharing lanes with pedestrians causes way less death. Government should stay out of it if they're going to mandate endangerment, which is what has happened in many areas.

Why do I not consent or conform to governments' decision to tell cyclists to use the road? Because it's a stupid fucking decision.

this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2026
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