Only 2/3 through it, but I had to come back to say: The hosts are doing a fantastic job of digging in and analyzing the manosphere as a phenomenon of more than just gender or patriarchy or grifting, but more fundamentally one of capitalism and social fragmentation.

I think the guests are reluctant to play that angle themselves, as two men being interviewed by two women, so I really appreciate the hosts being bold enough (and intellectually curious enough, in the first place) to allow for a reality that’s messy and complicated and doesn’t take the manosphere’s “men vs women” premise for granted.