submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
 

Doug Ford keeps on getting reelected, his brother was the mayor of Toronto despite the drugs and overall unseriousness... I mean why do people elect these guys? Is it for the memes and laughs?

I'm being totally serious when I ask this btw. What does the average Doug voter's rationale for getting this guy in office? Same with former Rob Ford voters. Who voted for Rob Ford? Why?

Edit: TLDR of the answers seem to be:

  • Horrible effect of fptp, vote split between liberals, ndp and the greens
  • Low voter turnout

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[–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Conservatives tend to just vote conservative, regardless who the candidate is, they just feel it's their 'what papa always did' tradition.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Loyalty is the single most defining characteristic of conservatives. No matter the crime or idiocy, they vote for the Jersey colour they like, and they never see why politics isn't like a sports team.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Despite Ontario being home to multiple metropolitan cities, those cities are surrounded by many suburbs, rural towns and farmland, and that comprises a large part of the conservative base that Dougie relies on. Of course there is also a good amount of support from conservative business owners, corporate types, and the wealthy within the cities as well.

    Dougie also captured a mandate in a Feb 2025 snap election on the back of the tariffs and political turmoil caused by The Orange One to the South. He stood up against Trump, famously popularizing a "Canada is not for sale" hat after the first annexation threats. And, to be a little fair, he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid, so he has some clout from that too.

    That said, he was already doing corrupt shit well before 2025, but now he's pushing the envelope even further because he won't face an election for a while (I guess, not sure what the options are there).

    Maybe moderate conservatives are paying attention and souring to him now, but the country has also shifted right, again due to the Overton window moving in the US, but also because of Poilievre shifting the federal conservatives far right, making Dougie look half sane. Oddly we are now in a situation where the Liberal party might attract more conservative voters because Carney too is conservative-lite.

    So in summary, the NDP has a lot of work to do, and they're in a terrible position to do it. Jebus help us.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid

    Ontario had the most nursing home deaths of any region in the world. Ford's response: indemnify nursing home corps from lawsuits and promise an inquiry that never happened. He also declared an end to COVID in 2022 and it continues to be the #5 killer in Ontario. Ignorance is why Ford gets re-elected. Despite "Elbows out" bullshit, Ontario behaves like any other red state.

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    [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    https://www.fairvote.ca/ontario/ for more info but in short:

    Ford got 65% of seats with only 43% of votes, but only a small group voted in the last election. That means he was elected by ~20% of eligible voters. More than half of eligible voters did not vote last election.

    We have here an electorate system that discards people's vote, discourage people to vote, or straight up disenfranchise them. For all the reasons you might be familiar with, gerrymandering, massive different in number of people in each district, propaganda from local and foreign agents. Also, I don't think the representative from my district lives here, I only hear about them during election time.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Ontario is like most US states. Most don't vote, and the hicks who do vote love populist MAGA politics and were triggered when Ontario had a lesbian Premiere, it was Ontario's Obama panic moment that surged the US right.

    We like them Pale, Male, Stale, and without a hint of Kale. Ford has repeatedly stated he is a Republican and a huge supporter of Trump. He's broken all records for fiscal irresponsibility and corruption.

    What drives all this is not the numbers from hicks, but the much greater numbers from people who refuse to vote. It does help that the opposition parties have very weak candidates who are also being ignored by the corporate press.

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    [–] 13 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Not answering the question of why these bozos get voted on, but one would be remiss not to mention our dumb and unfair first-past-the-post electoral system.

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    [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I’m from Australia and I haven’t been able to work this out either.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    We could ask the same question about the beetrooter, Angus Taylor, Pauline Hanson or any number of openly corrupt, mostly incompetent conservative politicians. I'm not from NSW but holy hell that Barilaro idiot seems like a real corrupt piece of shit but still managed to convince one of the richest states in the nation to make him Premier.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I suppose we could, but Ford and his brother stand out.

    Hanson is probably the closest match.

    I’m still trying to work out how Joyce manages to hold his seat, it’s incredible.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I'm in Ontario myself and it's mind-boggling but it's partially because his voters stick any negatives on the federal Liberal party and any positives on Ford. Ford has been completely gutting our provincial public healthcare system but a Conservative upset about hospitals shutting down or whatever will just direct all that anger towards Mark Carney (or non-white immigrants...)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Same thing as Trump. Same people.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Yeah see with the US and Australia, maybe the Old Dart, the dipshittery seems to be spread out a bit.

    In Canada it looks as if the problems confined to Ontario and these two who stand out like a carbuncle on the back of your leg. I don’t know though, I’m not Canadian so I could be missing others.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Rob won because his opponent was gay and Toronto couldn't have a gay mayor.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Your average rube wants to stick it to someone even if it means sticking it to themselves at the same time.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I found this to be pretty informative on the matter https://youtu.be/nACJOKV_YYA

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Rob Ford has his own gravity field. Ontarians can't escape his event horizon.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    At this point he is nothing but dictator Doug to me.

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