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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by siriusmart@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

made in gimp, with <3

Context for actual rust programmersI was having massive beef with the rust compiler yesterday, every cargo check takes 20 seconds.

And then look at the three functions below, only one of them are Send, if you know why, please let me know.

(Note: value that is not Send cannot be held across an await point, and Box is not Send)

async fn one() {
    let res: Result<(), Box<dyn Error>> = do_stuff();
    if let Err(err) = res {
        let content = err.to_string();
        let _ = do_stuff(content).await;
    }
}

async fn two() {
    let res: Result<(), Box<dyn Error>> = do_stuff();
    let content = if let Err(err) = res {
        Some(err.to_string())
    } else {
        None
    };
    drop(res);
    if let Some(content) = content {
        let _ = do_stuff(content).await;
    }
}

async fn three() {
    let content = {
        let res: Result<(), Box<dyn Error>> = do_stuff();
        if let Err(err) = res {
            Some(err.to_string())
        } else {
            None
        }
    };
    if let Some(content) = content {
        let _ = do_stuff(content).await;
    }
}

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[-] Object@sh.itjust.works 113 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Rust output is bad? I feel like it's one of the best in terms of telling you where you got things wrong. Nix output when you accidentally get infinite recursion is so bad.

Come to think of it, Nix fits all three better than Rust.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 42 points 3 weeks ago

People who've never used Rust or only used it once and couldn't grok it like to meme that Rust is bad to cope.

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[-] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, the good old random pile of unclear errors because you forgot to add the file in git thanks nix

[-] bobo@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

random pile of unclear errors

warning: Git tree '/path/to/repo' is dirty

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately, that shows up even when you've just modified an existing file, which is not a problem for it.

And which also happens to be the state my repo is in basically all the time, because I'll change some setting, then see if it works like I want it to before making a commit...

[-] bobo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fortunately, your comment is not relevant at all since I incorrectly posted the warning instead of the explicit error:

error: Path 'path/to/file' in the repository "/path/to/repo" is not tracked by Git.

It even gives you

To make it visible to Nix, run:

git -C "/path/to/repo" add "path/to/file"
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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

Is this a comment I'm not flake enough to understand?

[-] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 84 points 3 weeks ago

I get that it's supposed to be a meme, but aside from the first one these aren't even rust stereotypes. Is this a meme specifically for people who haven't used rust, know nothing about rust but have maybe heard that it's a programming language?

[-] nightlily@leminal.space 31 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, part of the point of Rust is that it does exactly what you tell it - sometimes to the point of absurdity. No implicit casting for instance.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And here I was thinking most of our programming problems come from the thing doing exactly what we told it to, but didn't quite think the process through enough. Or at all.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 16 points 3 weeks ago

This is for people who learnt C++ in 2008 and refuse to believe that they've never fucked up a malloc in their lives

[-] Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

C++

malloc

You aren't supposed to use malloc in C++ with very few exceptions.

[-] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hah I learned c++ in the 90s and never felt shame for messing up an allocation.

I think when this happens, I have a puddle of memory, the spilled ram “lubricates” the pointers, which often rub against each other. The wasted memory acts like oil does to a rusted chain. It’s helping push the program through the finish line.

Yes, I am having fun here

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

I mean Rust is definitely known for long compilation times but yeah otherwise I am not sure how any of this is Rust-specific. Maybe by "doesn't do what you tell it to do" they mean the borrow checker and strict compile time checks...?

[-] siriusmart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

i've edited the post content for context, and a small puzzle for rust programmers

[-] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I was actually wondering if this was supposed to be about a specific problem someone has with rust (not like I haven't gotten stuck on some weird corner with rust before), but looking at the meme, that seemed unlikely to me. Thanks for the context.

[-] BlueKey@fedia.io 62 points 3 weeks ago

output makes no sense

C++ template errors enter the room

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Template errors make sense as long as you carefully read the entire error, but nobody has ever actually done that.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

You are saying that the error messages terminate at some point?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Well, yeah, templates won't recurse beyond 1,024 levels.

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[-] Courantdair@jlai.lu 6 points 3 weeks ago

boost::msm errors enter the room

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 41 points 3 weeks ago
[-] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Deterministic when hit by that weird cosmic ray: ❌❌

/jk

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 39 points 3 weeks ago

So a narrow but clear win for the Rust compiler still...

[-] Courantdair@jlai.lu 36 points 3 weeks ago
cargo() {
  cargo $@
  echo So how you doin\' today?
}

Fixed

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

I thought the rust compiler was supposed to be polite and helpful (unlike gcc, or nix).

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 56 points 3 weeks ago

It is, this meme is just trash.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

You create a new file and don't check it into git yet.

Nix commands: "I've never met this file in my life!"

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

gcc was unhelpful a couple decades ago. I've found it to be rather helpful in recent years.

[-] verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, recent versions of GCC have gotten a lot better. I suspect it’s actually because of languages like Rust raising the bar.

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[-] kubica@fedia.io 30 points 3 weeks ago

cargo delete this_post

[-] wisha@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You are running into the Send Approximation being too conservative. The compiler does not like to see a let binding for a non-Send type and an .await statement in the same scope. It is not (yet) smart enough to know that the non-Send type is already consumed by the time of the .await.

You've already discovered the workaround in your three(). To make it more concise

async fn four() {
    let content = do_stuff().err().map(|err| err.to_string());
    if let Some(content) = content {
        let _ = do_stuff_2(content).await;
    }
}
[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

I love the rust compiler, it makes debugging so easy

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Just a guess, but are you missing + Send on your error type?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I was gonna say, that might be the root cause.

In the vast majority of cases, you want Box<dyn Error + Send + Sync>, but folks tend to leave out the Send + Sync, because it looks like additional complexity to them, and because it doesn't cause problems when they're not doing async/await.
It's better to define a type alias, if you don't want that long type name everywhere.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is an awful "meme"

[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

sometimes?! Cargo never makes sense to me!

[-] Noja@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

First mistake was using async

[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

It never asks me :(

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

https://xkcd.com/303/ vs this guy who thinks 20 seconds is a long time

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I've done professional work on an old Unix system where the full build was more than 2 hours, and an incremental stop-rebuild-restart cycle was 20 minutes.

You get to where you really stare at your edits for a while before you hit build.

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