Annie Altman accused her brother of sexually abusing and raping her between 1997 and 2006 at the family home in suburban Clayton, Missouri, starting when she was three and he ​was 12. She said the "last acts of sexual abuse and rape" occurred ​when Sam Altman was an adult. He is now 40.

They always go for the kids dont they. I dont know how credible this Annie Altman is, the family says she is mentally ill. But they would say that, wouldnt they.

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[–] 38 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Of course she's mentally ill. She survived rape by her brother. The family is vile scum for using that argument to silence her.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah. Its really hard to not hate this kind of people. Can you even imagine growing up in the Altman household? I guess thats the thing with rich families. The public ones are always horrible people. The only exception seems to Warren Buffet.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve heard more unrealistic things this week. I can believe this.

    Sam Altman advocates for raping society so it’s only natural he’d be a rapist.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So Aaron Schwartz was right not to trust Sam.

    Also, isn't this old news? His sister filed a lawsuit last year against him.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There was an update on the case:

    In a Wednesday night filing in St. Louis federal court, Sam Altman said Missouri's child sexual abuse statute, opens new tab does not authorize punitive damages for Annie Altman's claims, and instead limits ​her to "damages for injury or illness" caused by childhood sexual abuse.

    Looks like he will get away with it. Surprise surprise. I mean sure, I cant know for sure if this guy did it. But judging by his personality, I think he is exactly the kind of guy who would.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    But judging by his personality

    Which red flags in particular?

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    Change the name of the company to Sister Molester AI

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Guess his name stands for Sister's Abuser and Molester, then

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    [+] -17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Doesn't seem unlikely. But how would she know? People don't have real memories from when they were three.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Article says he started when she was 3 and continued until she became a teenager. Its typical of these predators to go for very young girls and stop around teenage years.

    Pretty sure you wont forget something like that even if you are just 3,4,5 years old.

    These people are all epstein island types.

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  • [+] -16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I have no idea if it happened or not, but one does not have reliable memories before 5. It's just a human thing. Sometimes people have a vague image but they can't place it in time, and it's usually a reconstructed memory based on a story or a photo.
    Basing an accusation like this on a 3-yo's memory is dicey. It actually weakens the accusation imo. That it continued and she clearly remembers it later is very different and he should be investigated thoroughly.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It doesnt matter, she was raped between 3 and 13. Are you going to say that this is something a human being forget?

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  • [+] -10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It doesn't matter because if she was raped she was raped and he should face the consequences. But yes. At 3 you don't remember stuff. She would have forgotten that. No one has real memories from that age.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You are trying to have a sensible discussion about early memories in a conversation about alleged rape.

    Save the argument for another opportunity because it comes across as you being defensive about Altman.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It only comes across that way for idiots that don't read. It's actually important, because a case against Altman has to be very strong. If everyone refuses to talk about the flaky part of the accusation because of feelings, then the whole case is likely to fail when it hits any kind of judicial or media pushback.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Seeing as i have clear memories of when i was two, I'm gonna need some big ol sources on your claims.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    3 yr olds memory?

    Fixated much?

    What about when she was 4?

    5?

    6?

    7?

    8?

    9?

    10, 11, 12, 13?

    You stupid fuck. Pick your battles.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    You're the ignorant one here and you need to check your knee-jerk reaction and actually try reading before you respond. I indicated that using a 3 or 4 year old's memory is dicey, but that she was clearly raped when older and reliably remembers that, and so he should be investigated/prosecuted. But it damages the case against him using unnecessarily flakey memories.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I attended preschool at 4. I recall distinctive memories of that experience.

    My parents got divorced the same week I turned 5. We moved...

    I recall the house I grew up in. The playset. The sand box. The dogs. The neighbors. The neighborhood. The exact address. The phone number. Riding my bike around, parts of the town I grew up in(we moved out of that town and indeed never lived there since). Even climbing trees. Friends. Getting blue ribbons in track. I was a great sprinter. All from before I was 5.

    The dog wrapped itself around the tree and died right after my 4th birthday, like in July or August.

    I don't recall my 3rd birthday party, though. But I recall my 4th. I recall my babysitter. Haha, my dad even had me golfing. However, I do have some very scant memories from before preschool when I would have been three.

    Like running into a table. Still got a scar from that one.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So because you think she can’t remember being raped as a child, you’re dismissing the whole thing? What age are you accepting rape-memories from? Because the rape allegedly continued well into her teens. I think she’s allowed to remember that.

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    How is this a strawman argument?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Because I'm not dismissing the whole thing. That notion is being conjured and argued against (a strawman argument). I specifically said he should be investigated and prosecuted. It's the pre-5yo part that weakens the case and should be dropped, and we shouldn't pussyfoot around that if we want a solid case (a judicial one and in the court of public opinion).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I agree with your reasoning. Personally I would describe it as being a weak case rather than a strawman which usually involves misrepresentation.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    The strawman is the person I replied to arguing against dismissing the entire case based on the claim of three-year-olds having useful memories. And rudely, I might add. I never said that the entire case should be dismissed. They made that up. That was the strawman.

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