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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is there actually any proof that Hamas has used hospitals? The Al-shifa hospital staff has denied this in every interview and no reporter has shown proof of it being real.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah there's videos of Hamas guys shooting from hospitals. Including a rocket launcher (which probably killed someone with the back last)! Monsters

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Good, as it should be. Hamas shouldn't be using them, but Israel also definitely shouldn't be bombing them.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Human Rights Watch found no evidence that the civilian victims were used by Palestinian fighters as human shields or were shot in the crossfire between opposing forces. Source

Unless they’ve changed tactics, Israel is lying.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (32 children)

Nice selective context there, removing the first part of the sentence:

In the killings documented in this report, Human Rights Watch found no evidence that the victims were used by Palestinian fighters as human shields or were shot in the crossfire between opposing forces.

So according to the HRW investigation of 11 killings in 2008-2009 the killings weren't justified by the claims of human shields.

And yet you have things like the UN in 2014 condemning the placement of rockets on site in one of its schools in the region for the second time:

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

So maybe you mischaracterizing the HRW conclusion and actively ignoring other evidence in the process is the real lying here?

Edit: Also, just for source consistency, we have this 2012 report from HRW:

Human Rights Watch research in Gaza found that armed groups repeatedly fired rockets from densely populated areas, near homes, businesses, and a hotel, unnecessarily placing civilians in the vicinity at grave risk from Israeli counter-fire.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BRUSSELS, Nov 12 (Reuters) - The European Union on Sunday condemned Hamas for using "hospitals and civilians as human shields" in Gaza, while also urging Israel to show "maximum restraint" to protect civilians.

Hospitals in the north of the Palestinian enclave are blockaded by Israeli forces and barely able to care for those inside, according to medical staff.

"The EU condemns the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas," European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement issued on behalf of the 27-nation bloc.

At the same time, he urged Israel to exercise maximum restraint, stressing the obligation under international humanitarian law to protect hospitals, medical supplies and civilians inside hospitals.

"These hostilities are severely impacting hospitals and taking a horrific toll on civilians and medical staff," Borrell warned.

"In this context, we urge Israel to exercise maximum restraint to ensure the protection of civilians."


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