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[–] 218 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Won't be any different. It's just a matter of time before Android goes the same

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  • [–] 131 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    GrapheneOS is Android and declines to introduce that

    Not sure when you'll be labelled a terrorist by using a privacy respecting OS though...

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    By the way our corporate dictatorships are speed-running totalitarianism, I'd say before the decade is done. I will choose to be an antifa terrorist before I accept fascism.

    This is actually the least invasive form of age verification for Apple users. Apple already has a credit card on file for something like 90+% of the user base.

    The alternative the political whore class are promoting is apps individually verifying with a multitude of data brokers "ID providers".

    This is the illusion of choice under the surveillance capitalism of corporate dictatorships. Rather than regulate capitalists, the gov colludes with them to exploit and enslave consumers.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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    Thanks for that input!
    Just came back from a business trip in Spain.

    Maybe I missed it in the article, but do you know, how they do it?
    I guess on the phone network level, my phone isn't shouting "GrapheneOS here!!".
    So how do they profile me?
    Only after they already control me somehow or...?

    Still, this is getting more and more Orwellian

    Hopefully my Jolla will be to exotic in the first period, but on the long term, this all is a really worrying development with the aim of mass surveillance

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    Mainstream Android will likely go the same path but there'll also probably be 10s of workaround and forks straight up saying fuck you, bitch.

    You won't have any other option on iOS other that to take the boot up yo a.

    And you'll probably use the usual "most people won't do that, tho". These are kids we are talking about and have you ever told a determined kid that they couldn't do something?

    This kowtowing the corporations and governments is how we got here and fuck people who bend the knee before even trying.

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  • [–] 90 points 5 months ago (28 children)

    I call bullshit. Apple fans happily take anything Apple pushes down their throats. Even a $999 monitor stand or a $40 microfiber cloth.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    I subscribe to TWiT cause I grew up on The Screen Savers and Call for Help and regardless of what people think of him I still like Leo Laporte, the guy is my childhood. Anywho I listen to all their podcasts and I'll sometimes listen to their weekly Mac one and it is absolutely insane the cult like behavior with these mac fans on this show. Oh they'll complain about the monitors and everything else but will still continue to defend it all by the end. There is one woman on the show that just rants and raves constantly about the dumb decisions Apple makes but openly admits that she'll continue to buy their products.

    At least on the Windows podcast the one dude will go ham on Microsoft weekly and I feel is pretty much just on the podcast to make fun of them. Then you have the Linux podcast where those guys just make fun of everything and it's honestly entertaining. Plus they have one guy who is in his 80s on there who is an absolute gem.

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    [–] 68 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    bullshit. no they won't. stock android also gonna get age verification, and is considered bad by apple users, plus its a different ecosystem. stop sharing shit articles like this.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (22 children)

    I’m dabbling switching to GrapheneOS. Apple was the lesser of (obvious) evils compared to Google, but that’s becoming less true daily.

    I don’t think I can make it my primary device yet, still need to de-cloud a bunch of services, but it’s very likely my next device won’t be an iPhone.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    I'm running GrapheneOS since about 2 years now and I'm more than happy.
    Didn't had any real issues with it.
    Art the start Android Auto didn't work, but it does now - although I don't really use it.

    I have Google play service stuff installed, but sandboxed.
    And my banking apps work just fine.

    Friend of mine made the switch a few months ago and haven't heard of any complaints either.

    Can highly recommend it :⁠-⁠)

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    [–] 45 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Imagine being so horrible at your job as a “journalist” or an editor or a publication that you would allow an article like this to be written under your name or publication without ever mentioning the fact that age verification is being pushed by governments, not phone and computer companies (they are trying to fight its implementation), and that it is equally coming to ALL platforms (yes, even Linux) – as required by law. If you want to fight this ridiculous age verification shit, petition (and vote out) your government. I would also argue that this author and publication should be permanently blacklisted for purposely publishing this obviously biased and misleading misinformation.

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    [–] 44 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    iPhone users 🚶‍♂️‍➡️ switching to android

    Android users 🚶‍♂️switching to iPhone

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago* (9 children)

    Android users 🚶‍♂️switching to iPhone GrapheneOS

    Switching to iPhone would just be objectively worse in literally every way

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    I switched to iPhone after being on android since kitkat. Worst decision I made. Basic functions of the device don’t work/crash out. There’s seemingly no global ‘back’. Each app can dictate how back works. So I’ve found myself having to remember which apps use the swipe back feature and which don’t. They brought in the ai autocorrect stuff which completely changes words that I type. The glass ui stuff is horrific. Some text is unreadable due to the transparency effect.

    Just terrible times all around. Looking to go to Graphene on my previous pixel phone next…

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    I had to spend a lot of time interacting with someone else's iPhone recently while traveling, and the experience was shocking. Can't believe how bad Apple has gotten.

    EDIT: LOL at the downvotes, enjoy your overpriced privacy nightmare that lacks basic, standard features or usability. It was extremely clear that the entire UX was shamelessly designed to limit you from doing anything that does not lock you in further to the Apple ecosystem

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Folks, this is coming from your government. The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can. Switching between phone makers will not help, and is not the right place to put your energy. Address your concerns to your governments.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    The phone makers want your data just as much as the government does. Data is money and power.

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    [–] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I am more happy than ever with my GrapheneOS phone. Especially after they refused to include age verfication I recommend everyone to switch to grapheneos or any other custom ROM android

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    [–] 34 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Lol sure, like android is not gonna do the same

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    [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    In fact, if they have the know-how, they should switch to something else. Android nowadays isn't much different from iOS, and I'm pretty sure that what was included in iOS will eventually land on Android too.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    GrapheneOS baby

    Kicked my 15pro

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I will switch to Android

    And you think that Google won't implement user tracking? It's literally their reason for existing.

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    [–] 24 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Why don’t governments force parental responsibilities instead? We wouldn’t need all our data sitting there waiting for the next data breach.

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago

    iOS doesn't (or at least didn't for a very long time) let you install an app without registration. 99% of those people have their credit card data registered with Apple. Now they are pissed that Apple will asks them to use credit card to confirm they are adults? Hilarious.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah but then you'll have a green bubble

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago* (20 children)

    Why not just make it so nobody under 18 can own a smartphone. Why these fucking useless age checks.

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    [–] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    But they already switched to Android when Apple removed the headphone jack. Oh wait, that's right - nobody did.

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    [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    I will switch to Android

    I'll believe it when I actually see it

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I always assumed that they were collecting that data from your contacts list already. I'd like to know how many people are actually affected by this or needed to "verify" their age after updating to 26.4

    Also, switching to Android isn't going to help with this.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Jeez, every platform and company is going to that ID and face recognition crap. Should we say goodbye to our little bit of privacy and anonymity on the Internet?

    Why’s Apple even doing this? They’re not a social media platform to begin with.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Facebook had lobbied so that the age verification is handled by the device rather than the application. The applications then need to check against this device API and conform accordingly.

    This ends up cheaper for Facebook and opens up for future legislation to embed similar shit in the OS for companies to exploit.

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