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iPhone New iOS Age Verification Sparks Outrage as Users Say 'I Will Switch to Android' (www.ibtimes.co.uk)
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[–] 218 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Won't be any different. It's just a matter of time before Android goes the same

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  • [–] 131 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    GrapheneOS is Android and declines to introduce that

    Not sure when you'll be labelled a terrorist by using a privacy respecting OS though...

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    By the way our corporate dictatorships are speed-running totalitarianism, I'd say before the decade is done. I will choose to be an antifa terrorist before I accept fascism.

    This is actually the least invasive form of age verification for Apple users. Apple already has a credit card on file for something like 90+% of the user base.

    The alternative the political whore class are promoting is apps individually verifying with a multitude of data brokers "ID providers".

    This is the illusion of choice under the surveillance capitalism of corporate dictatorships. Rather than regulate capitalists, the gov colludes with them to exploit and enslave consumers.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Spanish police already profiles you for using grapheneOS

    https://www.androidauthority.com/why-i-use-grapheneos-on-pixel-3575477/

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Thanks for that input!
    Just came back from a business trip in Spain.

    Maybe I missed it in the article, but do you know, how they do it?
    I guess on the phone network level, my phone isn't shouting "GrapheneOS here!!".
    So how do they profile me?
    Only after they already control me somehow or...?

    Still, this is getting more and more Orwellian

    Hopefully my Jolla will be to exotic in the first period, but on the long term, this all is a really worrying development with the aim of mass surveillance

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They profile you by looking at you. Cop sees you use your grapheneOS phone and thinks you’re a drug dealer. There’s no tech involved. They just use it as a sign, same way they’ve used hoodies, skin colour, or nationality to suspect you of something.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    How should that work?
    My GrapheneOS Android doesn't look any different than any other Android - and they'd need to look at my screen while walking by or something.

    They can't even see the exact Android version without trying to access it - or having me show them explicitly my "About phone" screen or something

    I really don't see how that should work in practice

    If they pick me out and want to scan my phone, then it could be used against me, that they can't access my data.
    But hey, that's what GrapheneOS is here for, to don't allow anyone access to my data, who shouldn't have access

    So, in practice this is not really relevant or do I misunderstand something?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Buddy if I haven't been labeled a terrorist yet after the things I've publicly said I am never gonna be labeled a terrorist.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You don't know, in what list you maybe already show up
    Just because police hasn't knocked on your door, doesn't mean, that in case all that shit will be held up against you

    Who knows, who is already monitored, because just of a drunken or honest comment, that icks someone the wrong way

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Its so dumb because unless you specifically type /s you can never tell if someone is serious online. Literally all context gets lost on social media. We used to allow humans grace before mass surveillance came along.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yep, "they" can just pull out a comment of context and put you into some kind of group

    As you said, stupid it is

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Considering they are more or less attempting that reasoning in regards to VPN usage in the states I'd say maybe a few weeks?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    How can they control that I'm accessing my own Wireguard or company VPN?
    Or does this only affect commercial (or free) VPN services one could use?

    The technical illiteracy of politicians is still astounding to me

    Edit: and how would they control TOR?
    I could potentially use a TOR to VPN chain. Albeit slow, it would still work.
    Registering with ID for TOR would be the most annoying amusing thing I've heard in a long time...
    (Don't know why autocorrect didn't like the word 'amusing'. Had to finally type it out. Seems not much fun stuff happening in my life ;⁠-⁠))

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    Mainstream Android will likely go the same path but there'll also probably be 10s of workaround and forks straight up saying fuck you, bitch.

    You won't have any other option on iOS other that to take the boot up yo a.

    And you'll probably use the usual "most people won't do that, tho". These are kids we are talking about and have you ever told a determined kid that they couldn't do something?

    This kowtowing the corporations and governments is how we got here and fuck people who bend the knee before even trying.

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