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[–] 184 points 5 months ago (1 child)
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[–] 165 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Do not connect your tv to the internet. Period.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm suffering for that right now. Sony Bravia.

    Firstly, I didn't want to buy a smart TV, but that's pretty much all that's sold anymore. I also didn't intend to connect it to the internet, but a well-meaning guest wanted to watch TV at night, and thought he was troubleshooting, not realizing he was in the TV menu and not the streaming box.

    The TV updated, and IMMEDIATELY got worse. Formerly, if I turned it on, it would go straight to the streaming box. Great! As shitty updates do, it changed the settings, and would instead open to the TV's menu, so it could advertise streaming services. It also forgot that the TV input is HDMI 1. It became strictly worse, in the rare edge case of every fucking time you turn it on.

    I don't trust it to not automatically connect, or to forget my login credentials, so I go to do a factory reset. It's literally an option in a menu. The TV gets stuck in a boot loop. Talking to support, they think it broke the mainboard. A factory reset bricked the TV.

    It's under warranty, but this is fucking crazy. NEVER connect your TV directly to the internet.

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    [–] 83 points 4 months ago*

    Walmart acquired Vizio with the express purpose of using TV's to serve ads. In fact, that is exactly what they said they were going to do.

    No surprises here.

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    My family stayed at my house and “the TV wasn’t working,” because it doesn’t have network access and I use an Nvidia Shield instead, so they connected it to the Wi-Fi and ad overlays showed up in the menus! I’m still mad about it years later.

    Luckily I dodged a bullet and it didn’t brick it or anything, and the ads went away when the internet access did. I just disconnected it from the network and manually banned the MAC address in case anyone else tries it again.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So Vizio is offering dumb TVs without Walmart accounts? I am actually kind of interested.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Don't plug in a Ethernet cord, and don't connect it to Wifi.

    Now you have a fully functional TV screen that wont be artificially bricked with OS updates.

    Get a dedicated "streaming device" like a Nvidia Sheild, Android TV, Apple TV, or Roku and you are good to go.

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    [–] 32 points 4 months ago

    Welcome to Earth where using Smart features is Dumb.

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Roku is every bit as bad. They bricked all customer's previously purchased TVs by implementing a new user agreement through their UI without warning. It couuld not be bypassed. Opting out required first opting in, agreeing to those new terms and then mailing a letter within a very short window with explicit, detailed requirements.

    My next TV won't be connected to the Internet and definitely won't be a Roku or Visio product.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Does the TV work as a screen if you factory reset it then never reconnect it to the internet?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    It does. I wound up buying two new TVs because of the thing OP is talking about here. You could actually get around agreeing and then opting out by removing the TV from the network and then restoring it to factory and never reconnecting it.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And if I don't want to use their smart features?

    this seems like it might be a win

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    This is how you get me to never buy a Vizio TV.

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You'd be better off buying a non-smart Samsung commercial TV from eBay and getting a $20 Onn 4K TV Box from Walmart. The latter can be Degoogled and sideloaded with Stremio, Cloudstream, or your streaming app of choice to make it the ultimate privacy-respecting media center.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

    – George Orwell

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    I just use my PC through my TV.

    Also don't buy tvs with voice activation.

    That means they have mics on 24/7.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    I use a TV for my monitor - last job I worked I really needed the screen real estate for excel.

    I hate hate hate when I shut the computer off or power goes off and when the TV comes back on, it auto-plays some "free" streaming channel, which is ALWAYS fascist propaganda. I rush to turn that shit off just as quickly as I can. Fuck that shit.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    My mini pc or laptop connected via HDMI to a projector setup makes me more happy every day when I see crap like this. Bonus is you can move it to the patio for outside movie night and it's a whopping five pounds. Same goes for moving apartments because I've always moved too often.

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    [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    TVs are screens or privacy nightmares. You get to choose as the consumer.

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    [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So Vizio is a donmart brand? I wish they'd make up their minds.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Nearly every electronic device sold at Walmart is a unique SKU sold nowhere else.

    They have their own internal logistics and manufacturing specialist team that works with manufacturers to hit specific wholesale price targets that they demand to even consider carrying their products in store. They reduce the number of ports, features, included accessories, quality of materials, etc. to get the that specific price.

    The manufacturers take a huge hit on their own profits from these... but in theory will make up for that with sheer sales quantity.

    Requiring a Walmart account probably means some sort of kickback to Vizio, or other wholesale arrangement. And since these devices are usually unique SKUs that can't be sold elsewhere, they can receive differentiated software, have no risk of any sort of price matching, etc.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    good. maybe people will stop buying them then.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    so don't make an account and it's a normal tv?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This is fine IMO, because you shouldn't use the smart features in the first place. Just get a 3rd party streaming box. The ONN one is like $25. (Or if you're a giant nerd hook your computer to your TV.)

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    [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    Joke's on them, I don't want any of the smart features

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Excellent News ! Finally, an easy way to disable every smart feature !

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My first two questions when buying a tv is

    How many HDMIs does it have? Where are they located?

    Last question, How to disable most features?

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    [–] 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'm tempted to go back to htpc lol. The tracking is so bad these days. I need to block the mac of my tv (Google tv) and just do a tiny PC or something instead.

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    [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Are Inout sources and volume smart features? Because I don’t need smart features

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    My blueray player broke, and my tv stopped showing me to use certain apps and I can’t figure out why. But a used PS4 cost me $85 and solved all my problems. And they left a copy of Minecraft in it, so I even have a game to play.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    My decade old TV is starting to show its age with a couple of dead pixel columns.

    I'm a bit stressed about trying to find a new one that has none of this kind of enshittification.

    I just want something with a couple of HDMI inputs and an antenna connector.

    I absolutely do not want any ad servers or mandatory account bullshit injecting itself where it isn't wanted.

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