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[-] [email protected] 138 points 2 years ago

If John Brown is remembered for one thing it would definitely be his nuanced both sides view of oppression

[-] [email protected] 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He was also a friend to his Native neighbors and a fond reader of Napoleon and Oliver Cromwell histories. Even setting aside his armed rebellion and Bleeding Kansas, the guy was never much of a pacifist and hardly one to shy away from extremism or his belief in the righteousness of working people.

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[-] [email protected] 118 points 2 years ago

This guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a punt gun

[-] [email protected] 105 points 2 years ago

"Modern John Brown would be Pete Buttigieg" is like some type of perverse blasphemy I don't quite know how to digest. These tweets are genuine evil.

[-] [email protected] 71 points 2 years ago

John Brown started my path towards being a Communist

I read what he did, how he so strongly understood the evil of slavery that he went out and did something about it, and that resonated with me

Of course, the people who would tell me, "Oh, he had the right idea, but he shouldn't have killed people" only strengthened my respect for him, because I knew they were just the same mealy-mouthed cowards who would said they stood against slavery but would do nothing to actually dismantle the system that permitted it

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago

It is genuinely one of the most disrespectful things I've ever heard said about the man.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

John Brown didn't conditionally advocate for people in bondage if they were christian, this person is completely thoughtless.

John Brown was really religious-->really religious people hate non-believers (which isn't even generally true) but it's demonstrably untrue in Brown's case with even a cursory knowledge of his life

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, of everyone in society to hate, it would be the communists for atheism and not the monstrous war machine that scours a million lives a decade and robs the global South of its resources every time its gaze falls upon a poor, barely defend brown country like the eye of Sauron. Yes, I'm sure he'd be an insufferable terminally online social media lib, rather than the one who shoots the insufferable terminally online social media lib.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

communists are atheists

"Finance imperialists are soulless and satanic, every church is just a temporarily embarrassed Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple" this is atheism, I am very smart!

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago

This is what happens when literally the only thing you know about John Brown was he was against slavery

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago

he's gonna be real shocked to learn the religious views of like half of all communist movements in the Americas

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

He's a radlib

Finding out a cucumber is a fruit would shock him

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

John Brown would be jerking it to Cuba

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Lol not only did Marx and Brown coexisted in the same time period, but Brown has expressed his interest in socialism and anti capitalism. Does this loser think every slave Brown worked with was a devout Christian?

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

Lenin would have said “tighten the interest rates because the economy needs healthy bank reserves” if you ask me.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

But we already had a modern attempt at John Brown : willem-van-spronsen

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[-] [email protected] 101 points 2 years ago

Holy shit John Brown himself was so fucking sick of hearing this exact argument made about slavery he killed slavers with a giant sword.

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 2 years ago

“Kill all slaveowners but also nuance is important” -Settler John Brown

[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the children of God" -- Jesus Christ

"I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood." -- John Brown

Clearly, we can all see the parallels.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the children of God" -- Jesus Christ

"I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood." -- John Brown

Clearly, we can all see the parallels.

I don't know about parallels but this certainly reads like a before and after.

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[-] [email protected] 85 points 2 years ago

If you're a John Brown stan, you can't complain about Hamas being religious extremists. After all, John Brown was a religious extremist.

[-] [email protected] 76 points 2 years ago

John Brown would have shot this man.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

"Owen, get the broadswords"

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[-] [email protected] 67 points 2 years ago

I’m taking the middle ground! I just want peace!

repeats pro Israel taking points non stop

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

JUST RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!

bombs every corner of Gaza that might be hiding hostages

[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

I've seen more than a few pro-Israeli comments say "if they stole your mom and siblings would you call for a ceasefire?? Wouldn't you want the most severe reaction from Israel?" Like what the fuck, no, if my family is held hostage please stop shooting and bombing everyone! I haven't seen any real person make this argument, it seems like desperate propaganda that is clearly failing.

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[-] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago

john-brown all my valor, stolen

[-] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago

Palestinian ethnonationalist

THEY WANT TO RETURN TO THEIR HOMES AND NOT BE BLOWN UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT

[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago

"There are good slavemasters and bad slaves so I agree with both sides. How about we try a humanitarian pause where all the slaves are freed 4 hours a day?" - John Brown

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago

a radical liberal with...an interest in economics

"I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with ~~blood.~~ careful manipulation of interest rates" -- Modern John Brown apparently

(damn, that hurt to type...)

[-] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

Slavery is none other than the most barbarous, unprovoked and unjustifiable war of one portion of its citizens against another portion, the only conditions of which are perpetual imprisonment and hopeless servitude, or absolute extermination. I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood.

Wait, I’m losing my twitter stan, let me start over.

I, John Brown, remain baffled that anyone who isn’t a slaver or a slave can look at this conflict and feel so strongly that one side’s cause is so just and the other’s so wicked that it demands everyone take the same, extremely strong position.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago

this is like an invocation

i hope john brown's ghost reaches through a mirror to choke this person out for such libshit

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

maybe they're just really into john brown's whole aesthetic but not really his politics?

[-] [email protected] 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This guy tried to make an argument that John Brown would support Israel because of the Bible, but the Bible also doesn't condemn slavery and tells slaves to obey their masters, and John Brown clearly fucking disagreed with that.

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's a totally symmetrical conflict.

You lefties moan about Israel controlling Palestine's water supply, but Palestine also surely controls Israel's water supply.

Sure Israel just invaded Gaza and told people to flee north Gaza, but Palestine actually also told Israelis to flee north Israel.

Israel has stolen 77% of the mandated Palestine? Guess what, commies, Palestine has also stolen 77% of Israel.

and so on.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Hamas controls the world's water supply as long as they want to control all rivers and all seas. Only our ponds are safe.

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago

If this motherfucker doesnt get John Brown's name out of his fucking mouth...

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

doesn't understand the first thing about John Brown, he's like the first person I'd think of when prompted with "felt strongly his cause was just"

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

How you know that's a deeply-entrenched, tick-buried settler running that account

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

Is this a bit?

Centrist John Brown?

I remain baffled that anyone who isn’t a white supremacist or a black supremacist can look at this conflict and feel so strongly that one side’s cause is so just and the other side’s so wicked that it demands everyone take the same, extremely strong position. Anyone who would take an extreme stance like “gather a militia of men and go on a righteous but perhaps doomed struggle for freedom and equality” against one side is crazy!

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

"Hamas wants to kill all the jews because a Zionist told me so. I am very smart and rational."

[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

The real John Brown would shove this guy's phone up his ass and then shoot him.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Libs will do this shit with any historical figure who's contempraries are too dead to rebuke them for it, start a Juba stan account instead coward

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